ultracon wrote:

theRat wrote:

SoldiersMum wrote:ok..so it is just as I said.  Karl Rove is a RINO.  Let's not fight to win.  How would it be if the coach told the wide receiver to walk the ball into the end zone, not to ever run, not to evade a tackle..just walk that ball?  Geez, Mr. Rat, I could care less about what Karl "stay on the high road" Rove has to say about anything.  He's partly responsible for the viciousness of today's argument and he is gone from the Bush administration.  He should just go home, sit on his porch with a nice quilt over his lap and count the stars.   His opinion means nothing, nada, zip, zilch..

If Rove isn't a Republican, what do you think he is?  I thought he was everyone's hero at this website...

Rat, do some homework on conservatism, Bush, Rove, and Rush Limbaugh then you won't make statements like that.

You didn't answer the question.  Bush and Rove frequently label *themselves* as both Republicans and Conservatives.  The left frequently labels *Rove* a Neo-con.  You indicate that you believe Rove isn't a Republican - so what do you think he is?  He's certainly not a liberal or a Democrat.  I'm just curious how you would label him.

theRat wrote: If Rove isn't a Republican, what do you think he is?  I thought he was everyone's hero at this website...

ultracon wrote: Rat, do some homework on conservatism, Bush, Rove, and Rush Limbaugh then you won't make statements like that.

therat wrote: You didn't answer the question.  Bush and Rove frequently label *themselves* as both Republicans and Conservatives.  The left frequently labels *Rove* a Neo-con.  You indicate that you believe Rove isn't a Republican - so what do you think he is?  He's certainly not a liberal or a Democrat.  I'm just curious how you would label him.

Honestly, Mr Rat, I thought you were above playing liberal games.  Karl Rove and Bush for that matter are not conservatives.  They are both in the group of Blue Bloods who are running the GOP today.  Hence, they are more RINO than Republicans when considering Reagan Republicans.  They could even be termed Reagan Democrats when considering ideology, in that they are moderates and actually slightly skewed to the left on some issues.  They should be loved by the left not villified.   They fit right in with the GOP as it is today.  It is us conservatives who don't fit into the GOP today.

SoldiersMum wrote:Honestly, Mr Rat, I thought you were above playing liberal games.  Karl Rove and Bush for that matter are not conservatives.  They are both in the group of Blue Bloods who are running the GOP today.  Hence, they are more RINO than Republicans when considering Reagan Republicans.  They could even be termed Reagan Democrats when considering ideology, in that they are moderates and actually slightly skewed to the left on some issues.  They should be loved by the left not villified.   They fit right in with the GOP as it is today.  It is us conservatives who don't fit into the GOP today.

So from an ideological standpoint, you think the best label for George W and Rove is "Reagan Democrat"?  I'm not saying you're wrong - but I've never heard either of them described that way.