Never, he cost the GOP the 2006 election along with the other RINO'S who made the GOP look like a party at war with itself.
MCLame knows torture works and saves lives but is willing to risk American cities going up in smoke !
Maverick my ass, he is a traitor just like he was over Viet Nam POW's!
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
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I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by TheIndependent on 01/21/08, 11:36 pm
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by eball on 01/26/08, 6:25 pm
This is one of the problems I have with Rush attacking McCain and Huck so hard. If they do win the Republican nomination then there will be some who cannot support them and we give it to the Dems. I believe in supporting your guy and I do not mind pointing out weaknesess of candidates but some one has to win and we all are going to be needed to beat Hill or Obama. It works both ways some like The Independent believe McCain is a traitor because of the all the trash talking and then supporters of McCain get so mad that if McCain loses they won't vote, we lose either way dial it back a bit boys and girls.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by paleocon on 01/29/08, 12:51 am
eball wrote:This is one of the problems I have with Rush attacking McCain and Huck so hard. If they do win the Republican nomination then there will be some who cannot support them and we give it to the Dems. I believe in supporting your guy and I do not mind pointing out weaknesess of candidates but some one has to win and we all are going to be needed to beat Hill or Obama. It works both ways some like The Independent believe McCain is a traitor because of the all the trash talking and then supporters of McCain get so mad that if McCain loses they won't vote, we lose either way dial it back a bit boys and girls.
I think this is exactly Rush's point. He doesn't plan to support either McCain or Huckabee if they win the nomination. And if you read the posts on this forum many of us won't either! We are CONSERVATIVES FIRST as is Rush. Liberals and RINOs are NOT OUR GUYS.
Rush has said many times that he isn't going to carry water for the GOP. If they nominate a liberal, RINO like McCain or Huckabee they had better be prepared for the conservative wing of the party staying home.
Rush hasn't endorsed anyone but we sure know who he doesn't want to win. I think he has the right to point out the problematic actions, policies and stances of the candidates he doesn't support. I don't see how being a radio host takes that right away from him.
He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by SoldiersMum on 01/29/08, 3:15 am
May I point out one problem besides the fact that HRC will win (if she has the nomination) if the conservatives stay home?
There are various Congressional races and local races occuring on the same voting day. If conservatives stay home, we will not only be giving the Presidency to the Dems but also the Democrats will get an even deeper majority in Congress. This will enable the socialists to carry out even more of their agenda without any conservatives who might be left having the opportunity to counter them. That is what happened in 2006 when the conservatives stayed home and alot of those who did vote voted for the Blue Dogs who lied thru their teeth as conservative Democrats to get the vote of disgusted conservatives.
If any conservative cannot vote for McCain or Huckabee, should either win the nomination, then please do not stay home. Please go and vote for any conservative who is running for anything.
We can't just give up the ship and let them take our country over without at least attempting to get the majority back in Congress...both houses.
There are various Congressional races and local races occuring on the same voting day. If conservatives stay home, we will not only be giving the Presidency to the Dems but also the Democrats will get an even deeper majority in Congress. This will enable the socialists to carry out even more of their agenda without any conservatives who might be left having the opportunity to counter them. That is what happened in 2006 when the conservatives stayed home and alot of those who did vote voted for the Blue Dogs who lied thru their teeth as conservative Democrats to get the vote of disgusted conservatives.
If any conservative cannot vote for McCain or Huckabee, should either win the nomination, then please do not stay home. Please go and vote for any conservative who is running for anything.
We can't just give up the ship and let them take our country over without at least attempting to get the majority back in Congress...both houses.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by angelka71 on 01/29/08, 10:55 am
I agree 100% with Soldiersmum. If you're wresteling with whether or not to vote, I suggest lurking for a bit in just about ANY liberal forum...hey, if you want to REALLY be convinced try logging in and whisper, "I'm a conservative."
They've got big plans for us once they retake power , they are foaming at the mouth! Their mailignancy of hatred has had plenty of time to grow during the last 7 years and they can't wait to unleash it!
I'm not exactly thrilled with the choices we have on our side but ANYthing we can offer is far far better than any democrat!
They've got big plans for us once they retake power , they are foaming at the mouth! Their mailignancy of hatred has had plenty of time to grow during the last 7 years and they can't wait to unleash it!
I'm not exactly thrilled with the choices we have on our side but ANYthing we can offer is far far better than any democrat!
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by paleocon on 01/29/08, 11:30 am
So you solution to NOT shooting yourself in the chest is to shoot yourself in the stomach? Wow! No, not me. I have been getting lied to by politicians for almost 30 years. I am not going to let one party continue to do this. I no longer buy the "Yeah, vote for us because we aren't as bad as the other guys!"
If the GOP has become virtually as corrupt as the dems and refuses to give those who affiliate with the party the conservative choices they want then I'll not support them any longer.
If the GOP has become virtually as corrupt as the dems and refuses to give those who affiliate with the party the conservative choices they want then I'll not support them any longer.
He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by eball on 01/29/08, 10:38 pm
So is the result in Florida a repudiation on Rush, Sean, Levin and other conservative talking heads?
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by paleocon on 01/29/08, 11:42 pm
I am not sure of what to make of McCain's victory. But, I don't see it as a repudiation of talk radio. McCain didn't win the Conservative Republican vote in Florida. Look at the exit polls. Conservatives didn't vote for McCain.
If those exit polls were accurate, who took the other 36% of conservative votes? I can't see Rudy getting Florida conservatives so they must have gone to Huckabee. But, the other GOP candidates took 70K votes and that only accounts for about 6% of the votes cast. But, these other candidates were the more conservative people who had already dropped out like Tancredo, Thompson and Hunter.
The vote tally indicates that 1.7 million votes were cast for all GOP candidates. Another 1.5 million votes were cast for Dems. The votes counted in Florida are about 39% of the registered voters. 20% voted in the GOP primary and 19% voted in the Dem primary. This seems to be a relatively high primary voter turnout.
The four-way nature of the race complicates conclusions. But, I am guessing the race won't be a four-way race much longer. Rudy is on his way out. Huckabee is a big question mark.
Rudy is rumored to be endorsing McCain. That will make it harder for Romney. Again, I don't think this means McCain must win the nomination but he didn't lose it tonight. Rudy and Huckabee probably did. But, I still feel that McCain will have advantages in a two-way race. I am not happy about this but I am not ready to give up.
According to the exit polls, 62 percent of primary voters identified themselves as conservative and 37 percent of them voted for Mitt Romney, compared to the 27 percent who went for McCain.
If those exit polls were accurate, who took the other 36% of conservative votes? I can't see Rudy getting Florida conservatives so they must have gone to Huckabee. But, the other GOP candidates took 70K votes and that only accounts for about 6% of the votes cast. But, these other candidates were the more conservative people who had already dropped out like Tancredo, Thompson and Hunter.
The vote tally indicates that 1.7 million votes were cast for all GOP candidates. Another 1.5 million votes were cast for Dems. The votes counted in Florida are about 39% of the registered voters. 20% voted in the GOP primary and 19% voted in the Dem primary. This seems to be a relatively high primary voter turnout.
The four-way nature of the race complicates conclusions. But, I am guessing the race won't be a four-way race much longer. Rudy is on his way out. Huckabee is a big question mark.
Rudy is rumored to be endorsing McCain. That will make it harder for Romney. Again, I don't think this means McCain must win the nomination but he didn't lose it tonight. Rudy and Huckabee probably did. But, I still feel that McCain will have advantages in a two-way race. I am not happy about this but I am not ready to give up.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by tlaureto on 01/31/08, 1:08 pm
I am new to this whole blogger ordeal. I am a conservative republican, but I support Mccain. He is the best person to beat a Democrat. The only things i disagree with him on is the torture and mccain feingold. everything else he has been conservative on. Rommney was pro-choice and implented health care in his state, huckabee has rasied taxes. The only 2 conservatives our mccain and paul.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
by SoldiersMum on 01/31/08, 3:49 pm
tlaureto wrote:I am new to this whole blogger ordeal. I am a conservative republican, but I support Mccain. He is the best person to beat a Democrat.
Why do you think the liberal NY Times has endorsed McCain? Do you think it is because McCain can beat Hillary or Obama? Why do you think the liberal mainstream media has been pushing McCain? Do you think it is because McCain can beat Hillary or Obama? Why do you think that McCain's wins have been because of moderate and independent liberals? Do you think it is because McCain can beat Hillary or Obama?
The only things i disagree with him on is the torture and mccain feingold. everything else he has been conservative on.
So, you agree with McCain that the tax cuts should not be made permanent?
So, you agree with McCain that we should give amnesty to $20M illegal aliens?
So, you agree with him on McCain/Lieberman legislation on climate change and agree that an additional
50 cent tax per gallon should be placed on gasoline?
So, you agree with McCain when he makes it his mission to cross over the aisle to make deals (and
some under the table in secret as the Amnesty Bill was done) as he did when he led the
gang of 14 RINOs against the Republicans in Congress regarding judicial nominees versus standing
strong to further conservative principles ?
Rommney was pro-choice
So, you do not believe anyone should ever be allowed to change their mind? You do not believe Romney had an epiphamy on abortion? Ask Glenn Beck. He interviewed Romney about this. Romney told him the exact moment he realized he had been wrong and he never again supported abortion.
But, you believe McCain's flip/flop when he now says he knows the borders have to be closed before addressing his amnesty to those already here. Explain to me exactly why his flip is ok but Romney's isn't? And..explain to me why it is that McCain is still co-sponsoring Senate Bill 340, the Agriculture Jobs Act (AgJobs) that gives amnesty to 1.5Million to ? Million and does not address anywhere in the entire bill the securing of our borders.
and implented health care in his state
Romney's healthcare in Massachusetts is not socialized medicine, it is free market. There is a very large difference. Just exactly what do you think McCain would do with a bill legalizing socialized medicine since he thinks it's his mission to cross over the aisle to make the socialists happy?
. The only 2 conservatives our mccain and paul.
McCain is not a conservative. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
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