I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby paleocon on 02/01/08, 7:32 pm

slydon1018 wrote:Previously Giuliani said he had been a supporter of McCain Feigngold but during the Michigan debate he described it as an attack on the first amendment so he changed his position.  As far as McCain Kennedy goes I believe you are correct that at one time he supported immigration reform similar to that of Joh McCain but both McCain and Giuliani have seemed to move to the right on the issue.  I believe that this transformation was more genuine in Giulianai because he did not author the original bill as McCain did.


I wonder why some people accept the flip-flopping of certain candidates more readily than of others.  Frankly, I don't think McCain or Giuliani are very credible when it comes to stating their actual positions.  They seem to have "changes of the heart" at the most convenient times.  And, frankly, McCain has been so blatantly and patently lying about  his "new found convictions" to secure the border that he probably couldn't fool a kindergarten student.  The funny thing is that McCain is such a horrible liar that it makes me laugh.  But, people seem to suck it up.

No, I know John McCain is lying about too many things I hold to be essential.  I'll never vote for this man.  The fact that he served his nation is a big deal.  But, that one fact is not enough to make him qualified to be president.  Frankly, I wonder if the wounds he suffered in captivity have pushed him too close to the edge.  He blows up at too many people too often.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby eball on 02/01/08, 8:08 pm

I sure hope you folks that think Mike is taking votes away from Mitt will check out question 7 on the new Fox poll out today.  When asked if it were a two man race just Mitt and McCain,  McCain's lead grows.  I am a Huck supporter who would vote for McCain rather than Mitt.  McCain is who he is and I agree he is not as conservative as I like but Mitt is a shameless politician who adopted more conservative positions right before he started his run.  Pro-life and 2nd amendment folks will never trust Mitt.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby paleocon on 02/01/08, 8:46 pm

eball wrote:I sure hope you folks that think Mike is taking votes away from McCain will check out question 7 on the new Fox poll out today.  When asked if it were a two man race just Mitt and McCain,  McCain's lead grows.  I am a Huck supporter who would vote for McCain rather than Mitt.  McCain is who he is and I agree he is not as conservative as I like but Mitt is a shameless politician who adopted more conservative positions right before he started his run.  Pro-life and 2nd amendment folks will never trust Mitt.


I don't know anyone who thinks Huckabee is taking votes away from McCain.  You are welcome to McCain.  Just remember he is the guy who approached the Dems to ask about switching parties.  He is the man who has said Kerry and Clinton would make good presidents.  He is the man who said he would entertain an offer from Kerry to run as his VP in 2004.  John McCain is very confused about his identity.  Nobody looking at the facts can trust McCain after the last 8 years.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby paleocon on 02/01/08, 10:19 pm

Just in case anybody hasn't gotten my point yet:

I will NEVER vote for John McCain!
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby paleocon on 02/02/08, 12:18 am

He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby Hate Monger on 02/02/08, 12:58 am

paleocon wrote:Just in case anybody hasn't gotten my point yet:

I will NEVER vote for John McCain!



I hear ya loud and clear!
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby Eyas on 02/02/08, 1:24 am

Join the movement for a consolidated true conservative write-in campaign.  The two best options so far are Ronald Reagan, and Fred Thompson.  Don't stay home.  Let conservative voices be heard, even if we cannot determine the election itself - millions of conservative votes for the same write-in candidate cannot be ignored.

I'm going to harp on this until I'm blue in the face - at every opportunity.

Don't stay home. Write in Ronald Reagan.
Don't stay home.  Write in Fred Thompson.



ALSO, does anyone know if Paleocon is planning to vote for McCain?
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby Hate Monger on 02/02/08, 1:28 am

Eyas wrote:Join the movement for a consolidated true conservative write-in campaign.  The two best options so far are Ronald Reagan, and Fred Thompson.  Don't stay home.  Let conservative voices be heard, even if we cannot determine the election itself - millions of conservative votes for the same write-in candidate cannot be ignored.

I'm going to harp on this until I'm blue in the face - at every opportunity.

Don't stay home. Write in Ronald Reagan.
Don't stay home.  Write in Fred Thompson.



ALSO, does anyone know if Paleocon is planning to vote for McCain?


I liked Reagan...but i'll probably vote for someone who is alive.  So that rules out Reagan and McCain....
And you ask me what I want this year
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby paleocon on 02/02/08, 1:49 pm

We shouldn't rule out Reagan just because he is dead.  The Dems ran some guy for the Senate a couple of years ago even though he was dead and said any of this votes counted for their replacement candidate.  

So the Dems can run a dead guy and count votes for him for someone who isn't even on the ballot and declare victory.  

Why can't we do the same?  We can claim a vote for John McCain is actually a vote for Ronald Reagan and then claim that we really didn't mean Reagan after all but Duncan Hunter.
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Re: I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN!

Postby Antisoros on 02/02/08, 5:58 pm

Lol, McNasty/Huckabee will go down in flames, and I'll help that.



paleocon wrote:Just in case anybody hasn't gotten my point yet:

I will NEVER vote for John McCain!



Can you please clarify your position? Kthxbye.
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