tlaureto wrote:I am new to this whole blogger ordeal. I am a conservative republican, but I support Mccain. He is the best person to beat a Democrat. The only things i disagree with him on is the torture and mccain feingold. everything else he has been conservative on. Rommney was pro-choice and implented health care in his state, huckabee has rasied taxes. The only 2 conservatives our mccain and paul.

Well, frankly, McCain hasn't been "conservative" on everything else.  McCain/Kennedy (the Shamnesty bill from last year) is a great example.  How about McCain/Lieberman where he starts regulating "greenhouse" emissions like the CO2 you exhale every time you breathe out.  You already mentioned McCain/Feingold where he acted unconstitutionally to reduce our rights to free political speech in direct contravention to the US Constitution where it says pretty plainly that

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...

Thanks to McCain/Feingold I can't air a political ad if I choose to when I choose to.  That sounds like I have been "abridged."  

McCain failed to support the nomination of conservative judges by his "gang of 14" ploy a year or two ago.  McCain failed to support Bush's tax cuts in 2001.  He and his friends in the Senate continue to spend like drunken sailors.  

If McCain were really a conservative his bills would have names like McCain/Thune or McCain/Hatch or McCain/Thompson.  Instead, his bills are always huge liberal initiatives cosponsored with HUGE liberals like Ted Kennedy.

McCain is an out of touch, arrogant elitist who doesn’t care about what the people of this nation think.

Rush will vote for McCain when it comes down to it.  Unfortunately a lot of conservatives will not.  Just as we see McCain rushing to the right during the primaries he will rush just as fast to the center once he secures the nomination.  This will of course demoralize the conservative base and they will not come out to vote.  Its the same old story of the blue-blood country club Republican establishment backing one of the most liberal members of the party.  This is not how we win general elections.  They backed Nixon instead of Goldwater in 1960 and we lost.  They backed Gerald Ford instead of Ronald Reagan in 1976 and we lost again.  If McCain gets the nomination Hillary Clinton will be in the White House come January.

slydon1018 wrote:Rush will vote for McCain when it comes down to it.  Unfortunately a lot of conservatives will not.  Just as we see McCain rushing to the right during the primaries he will rush just as fast to the center once he secures the nomination.  This will of course demoralize the conservative base and they will not come out to vote.  Its the same old story of the blue-blood country club Republican establishment backing one of the most liberal members of the party.  This is not how we win general elections.  They backed Nixon instead of Goldwater in 1960 and we lost.  They backed Gerald Ford instead of Ronald Reagan in 1976 and we lost again.  If McCain gets the nomination Hillary Clinton will be in the White House come January.

Unfortunately, I believe you are right on all counts.

Did you happen to catch McCain and Guiliani on Jay Leno tonight?  Did you hear them both talking about how conservative they are???  Lies.   Did you hear John McCain promise he will capture OBL and bring him to justice??  Just another big whopper for votes.

I think I'm going to start calling him Juan, the Burger King.

slydon1018 wrote:Rush will vote for McCain when it comes down to it.  Unfortunately a lot of conservatives will not.  Just as we see McCain rushing to the right during the primaries he will rush just as fast to the center once he secures the nomination.  This will of course demoralize the conservative base and they will not come out to vote.  Its the same old story of the blue-blood country club Republican establishment backing one of the most liberal members of the party.  This is not how we win general elections.  They backed Nixon instead of Goldwater in 1960 and we lost.  They backed Gerald Ford instead of Ronald Reagan in 1976 and we lost again.  If McCain gets the nomination Hillary Clinton will be in the White House come January.

I do believe Rush when he says he will not vote for McCain.  I don't see why you doubt him.  But, I think you are right to predict that a lot of conservatives will sit this race out.  

As a teenager I didn't understand the power play in 1976.  But my parents were Republican and they supported the party.  I have seen where the party wants to take us: open borders, bigger government, higher taxes, ignoring the constitution.  I don't want to be part of that.  I am a conservative first.  I will NEVER vote for a RINO again.

who has touted more liberal legislation in their time in the Senate...Juan McCain? Hillary, or Obama...?
Global Warming, incumbent protection legislation, amnesty, etc...seriously...they're all liberals.  MCCain is going to propose liberal judges because he's a lib.  Dems aren't going to pull out of Iraq b/c they know that would be political suicide.  So why again should I vote for a liberal, just b/c he happens to be an "R"?

This "oh...you have to vote for McCain b/c the Dems will win" reasoning is ridiculous.  I believe that a McCain presidency would result in more liberal legislation than a Dem one would.  

I think a Hillary presidency would be better for the party b/c it would unify them, hopefully get the old dinosaurs in the party out of the way in favor of younger conservative candidates to challenge house seats in 2010.  A McCain presidency will just make it easier for Dems to pick up seats b/c he undoubtedly will have had a crappy 2 years.

As a conservative...i would not stay home, but vote for a fringe candidate...like a libertarian or something.  And I'll certainly vote for other offices...but i'm not voting for a liberal for any of them, including the President!

eball wrote:So is the result in Florida a repudiation on Rush, Sean, Levin and other conservative talking heads?

Maybe...maybe not...but when McCain gets absolutely smoked by Hillary or Obama, it'll be a repudiation of the GOP old boys club.

The result in Florida is due entirely to the fact that the conservative wing of the Republican party was split between Romney and Huckabee while the liberal wing was unified for the most part around John McCain.  Additionally, I think a good amount of Giuliani's voters would have gone for Romney.  Just because Giuliani is endorsing McCain I cannot believe that all of his votes would have gone to McCain in Florida had he not been in the race.  Rudy Giuliani is not a liberal Republican for the same reasons John McCain is.  He would never have supported legislation like McCain Feigngold or McCain Kennedy and his voters know this.  I cannot see a majority of them switching to McCain.  Had Huckabee and Giuliani dropped out of the race before Florida, Romeny would have beat McCain by 10 points easy.

slydon1018 wrote:The result in Florida is due entirely to the fact that the conservative wing of the Republican party was split between Romney and Huckabee while the liberal wing was unified for the most part around John McCain.  Additionally, I think a good amount of Giuliani's voters would have gone for Romney.  Just because Giuliani is endorsing McCain I cannot believe that all of his votes would have gone to McCain in Florida had he not been in the race.  Rudy Giulianai is not a liberal Republican for the same reasons John McCain is.  He would never have supported legislation like McCain Feigngold or McCain Kennedy and his voters know this.  I cannot see a majority of them switching to McCain.  Had Huckabee and Giulianai dropped out of the race before Florida, Romeny would have beat McCain by 10 points easy.

Yes, Florida demonstrated a split in the entire GOP, not just conservatives.  But many more conservatives voted against McCain than voted for him.  

I hope you are right that not all Giuliani supports will automatically support McCain.  But, I have little evidence to support my hopes.  I have never heard Giuliani say anything about McCain/Feingold.  Do you have statements from him?  I do think Giuliani's position on immigration is fairly close to McCain's position though I never heard him support or reject McCain/Kennedy.  

I hope you are right about the way voters will turn in a two-way race, but we are going in to Super Tuesday with a three-way race and it seems Romney IS NOT buying much advertising in the Super Tuesday states which is a bad sign for the campaign.

Previously Giuliani said he had been a supporter of McCain Feigngold but during the Michigan debate he described it as an attack on the first amendment so he changed his position.  As far as McCain Kennedy goes I believe you are correct that at one time he supported immigration reform similar to that of Joh McCain but both McCain and Giuliani have seemed to move to the right on the issue.  I believe that this transformation was more genuine in Giulianai because he did not author the original bill as McCain did.

McCain and Guiliani were holding hands on Jay Leno last night with "we are conservative" statements about every other sentence.  Guiliani's supporters will probably fall in lockstep behind McCain since let's face it, Guiliani isn't a real conservative any more than Juan Burger King of the whopper is.  

McCain said last night that when he is President, he will capture Osama Bin Laden and prosecute him.  What an insult to our military.  They have been so inept at not capturing him but now, with Big Juan as President, they'd be able to do their jobs correctly.  

Alot of our Military and our Veterans are supporting McCain because he supports their mission and he supported the surge and he was a POW.  A good many of them are too busy protecting our freedoms  to look past these things to see that McCain will try his best to limit those freedoms just as the socialist Democrats will.  

Have you ever noticed that McCain can never, ever carry on any conversation without making sure you are reminded he was a POW?  I'd personally like a psych eval to see what being a POW did to his mind.  

Did you see where Ann Coulter has said she will vote and even campaign for Hillary if McCain is the nominee because she is more conservative than he is?