Dear Rushies,


What is your response to this issue occurring repeatedly in American Universities ?

Idriz Ajeti
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Why does this happen?

CNN: 02/15/2008

A former student opened fire in a lecture hall Thursday at Northern Illinois University, shooting 21 people before fatally shooting himself. Seven people died, including the gunman.

We want to hear from you. Share your thoughts on the NIU shooting in the space provided below. How has this most recent campus shooting impacted you? Who, if anyone, do you think is to blame? Is America a more violent society than others around the world? Why does this happen?



       

Idriz Ajeti wrote:Dear Rushies,

What is your response to this issue occurring repeatedly in American Universities ?

Idriz Ajeti

Why does this happen?

CNN: 02/15/2008

A former student opened fire in a lecture hall Thursday at Northern Illinois University, shooting 21 people before fatally shooting himself. Seven people died, including the gunman.

We want to hear from you. Share your thoughts on the NIU shooting in the space provided below. How has this most recent campus shooting impacted you? Who, if anyone, do you think is to blame? Is America a more violent society than others around the world? Why does this happen?

I believe this has happened at two American Universities in the last several year.  In April 2007 a mentally ill young man killed 32 people at Virginia Tech.  And then yesterday another young man killed several more people in Illinois.  

If you google "college campus shootings" you will find several additional events going back several years.  

Since we know very little about the young man who injured and murdered these people, and since he left no note, it would be pure speculation to comment on his motives.  

The only response I have is that I am terribly sorry for the victims and their families.  It is always a shame when young lives are cut short.  

Do you have a response?  Do you assume all Rush Limbaugh listeners would share one and only one response?

I think it's the fault of guns.

The guns whisper secrets to these poor individuals in their sleep.  This drives them crazy.  The guns then take "possession" of the crazy person's soul & will -- just like demon possession.  We all know that guns are the works of the devil, and they have demonic mind-control powers.

It is the guns who then commit these crimes.









Either that, OR, severely mentally ill people sometimes decide to commit mass murders.  Why? because they're f***ing nuts!  

If you want an explanation why this shooting occurred, go ask the shooter.

[quote="Eyas"]I think it's the fault of guns.

It is the guns who then commit these crimes.

First, 'Greetings to everybody!!!'


And, now let me give my opinion to "Eyas".

Although you made a good point, still, guns do not commit crimes but people do, people with guns. Furthermore, if the solution to this problem is to get rid of the guns then before you make a decision just listen to this fact:   there are more bathtub accidents in the US than deaths commited by guns at home. Now having said that, do you think we should get rid of bathtubs? Also, when the movie 'Moneytrain' was shown in the US and around the world, only in the US  a copycat crime was commited in NY. Nowhere else. Why is that? Why the society is so prone to violence?

Idriz Ajeti

Idriz Ajeti wrote: Also, when the movie 'Moneytrain' was shown in the US and around the world, only in the US  a copycat crime was commited in NY. Nowhere else. Why is that? Why the society is so prone to violence?

Idriz Ajeti

You draw the conclusion that a society is prone to violence from one copycat crime?  That doesn't appear very scientifc.  

Take a look at these two notes:

* Overall crime (homicide, rape, major assault, robbery) and property crime. The United States in 1980 clearly led the Western world in overall crime and ranked particularly high in property crime. A decade later, statistics show a marked decline in U.S. property crime. By 2000, overall crime rates for the U.S. dropped below those of England and Wales, Denmark, and Finland, while U.S. property-crime rates also continued to decline.

* Homicide. The United States had consistently higher homicide rates than most Western nations from 1980 to 2000. In the 1990s, the U.S. rate was cut almost in half, but the 2000 rate of 5.5 homicides per 100,000 people was still higher than all nations except those in political and social turmoil. Colombia, for instance, had 63 homicides per 100,000 people; South Africa, 51.

Source.

Crime tends to eb and flow over time in nations.  Do you mean to imply that some or all crime in America is worse or more prevalent than in all other nations?  Evidently, that is not the case as noted by the reference quoted above.  Do you have any statistics or do you simply rely on anecdotal evidence?

Not to mention that Americans watch a whole lot more movies than most residents of other countries do.

IMO, this is just another symptom of "the coarsening of the culture" in the entire West - you can blame everything from guns to Ritalin to video games for all these school shootings, it can all be traced down to a lack of moral and spirtitual basis.

My opinion is that it is liberalism that has led people to do this.  

1.  Liberalism has and is continuing to destroy morality, destroy the family, eliminate God from society and  the importance of life.  When you can suck the brains out of a 9-month fetus prior to birth, what's shooting a few big people?  

2.  Liberalism has made people, especially young boys and men, weak.  Weak minded people do weak minded things.   SNAP!! They don't have the structure, the moral fabric, the strength to deal with their problems and their problems are always someone else's fault and therefore the punishment always goes to someone else.

3.  Liberal professors and liberal parents indoctrinate children thru the Government education system and do not teach them to think or provide them the structure to solve their own problems.

4.  Liberalism has and is continuing to create a citizenry of sheep whereby the Government is there to save them regardless of their problems.  Liberalism has created slums, gangs and drug trafficing.  When the problems are emotional and the Government does not rush in to help, and they are incapable of solving their own problems, they gravitate to other people who are in similar emotional states.  They get on drugs, get in gangs or SNAP!!

Liberalism is breaking our society and breaking our children.

That's my opinion..for what it's worth.

Too much liberalism:

Professors aren't allowed to bring guns to school -- why? Anti-gun nuts.

Professors -- whats wrong with them bringing guns to school? Nothing at all what so ever that is, if they can get a permit, learn in a professional class on how to use one, and know when and just really be trained with a gun.

Students -- whats wrong with them bringing guns to school -- why? Look at the whole paragraph above.

I'm not blaming Police or campus security/police. I'm blaming the people who make it IM-F**KING-possible to let good people have guns and actually do let bad people have guns.. there's cops that agree with this.

SoldiersMum wrote:My opinion is that it is liberalism that has led people to do this.  

1.  Liberalism has and is continuing to destroy morality, destroy the family, eliminate God from society and  the importance of life.  When you can suck the brains out of a 9-month fetus prior to birth, what's shooting a few big people?  

2.  Liberalism has made people, especially young boys and men, weak.  Weak minded people do weak minded things.   SNAP!! They don't have the structure, the moral fabric, the strength to deal with their problems and their problems are always someone else's fault and therefore the punishment always goes to someone else.

3.  Liberal professors and liberal parents indoctrinate children thru the Government education system and do not teach them to think or provide them the structure to solve their own problems.

4.  Liberalism has and is continuing to create a citizenry of sheep whereby the Government is there to save them regardless of their problems.  Liberalism has created slums, gangs and drug trafficing.  When the problems are emotional and the Government does not rush in to help, and they are incapable of solving their own problems, they gravitate to other people who are in similar emotional states.  They get on drugs, get in gangs or SNAP!!

Liberalism is breaking our society and breaking our children.

That's my opinion..for what it's worth.

Well, mum, I was litening to a report about the shooter; and, before he snapped, he had been described as a very sensitive indivitual who was very concerned with ......  get this: "Peace and Social Equality".

So, in this particular case, you may be more right than you know.  I imagine that one fine day, this kid realized that "Peace and Social Equality" and other liberal claptrap that he believed in were pipe-dreams, he realized that all the PC and Leftist ideals that had made him feel so good about himself were all b.s..  I imagine that he awakened from liberalism and the shock to his belief system made him snap.

I think professors should be armed just like airline pilots. Campus security is doing good job and the law enforcement is doing its part but that doesn't seem to be enough. You fight fire with fire not with velvet gloves. There is no need for Campus Marshalls,... yet. However, issuing hand guns to university professors, in my opinion,  I don't think is such a bad idea. When professors are armed, the loonatics out there will think twice - if they are capable to think - before they storm into a classroom and start shooting indiscriminately.

Idriz Ajeti