Who Represents The Middle Class?

Who Represents The Middle Class?

Postby Dlanorrenrag on 11/06/07, 3:27 pm

What does elite money want?
Answer: cheap labor, free rein, little governmental regulation.

Which of the following candidates does elite money most dislike: Giuliani, Hillary, Edwards, Mitt, Huckabee?
Answer: Mitt and Huckabee.

What chance do the values of the middle class have with any candidates other than Mitt and Huckabee?
Answer: Zilch.

How much support does the media and academia give to Mitt and Huckabee?
Answer: Slim.

How much disinformation will elites, through the media and academia, be motivated to spread about Mitt and Huckabee?
Answer:  Much.

What portion of the electorate would favor both Mitt and Huckabee?
Answer: Majority.

What chance does either Mitt or Huckabee have, absent a miraculous swell in middle class contributions?
Answer: Slim.

What difference will middle class votes make in a contest between Hillary and Giuliani?
Answer:  Slim.

Question: If you are in the middle class or believe in middle class values, what are you doing about it?
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Re: Who Represents The Middle Class?

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/06/07, 7:05 pm

A Heritage Report came out yesterday identifying where the wealth lies in the country.  Guess what?  The Party of wealth is not the Republican Party as the socialists would have you believe.  The Party of wealth is the Democrat Party.  

Why then do they continue to say the wealthy aren't paying enough in taxes?  Why..it's because of socialism.  Redistribution of wealth applies to the population but it doesn't apply to them because they know more than any of the rest of us.  There is no way the socialists' expanding programs of entitlements will not creep to the middle class via increased taxes for everyone except those at the very bottom of the barrel.

Today is election day and for this area, the child-mayor who took over when the elected major died of cancer is running against a very popular republican.  The newspapers [even the liberal Post Gazette] and the unions have endorsed the republican.  The problem..in Pittsburgh, the democrat voters out number the republicans 5:1.  I'm guessing the child-major (26 years old) will be elected only because these people continue to watch this city go down the tubes [it was just bankrupt and the state bailed it out] and continue to vote the democrats in.   In Pittsburgh the unions have a major presence.  This is primarily a blue color town.  That means they traditionally vote democrat no matter who it is, just so they have the "D."

I do not live in the city of Pittsburgh but in a suburb.  When I went to vote this morning [in my district it was for judges only], and I live in a predominately republican area, I was told the turnout was about 20% down.  This is the same thing that happened in 2006.  I am awaiting the results of today's elections to see whether the republicans are continuing to stay home and allow the socialists to take over which will not bode well for 2008.  

We must do something to wake up the conservatives whether they are middle class or not to get them out of their malaise, get them angry at what is happening in our country and get them to start fighting for the future.  I don't know what it is going to take to do this.  I sure wish I knew.

Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."
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Re: Who Represents The Middle Class?

Postby Dlanorrenrag on 11/07/07, 6:23 pm

Pat Robertson signing on for Giuliani --- What does that tell us?
We have to stop trusting the fringes that are monopolizing the main parties.
Neither of those fringes values the USA.
Both are selling us out, left and right, and will continue to do so if we do not holler "Stop" and get eyeball to eyeball against them.
We need Raging, Red Ass Moderates.  We need tar, feathers, and pitchforks.
Problem is, will either Mitt or Huck rage enough?
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Re: Who Represents The Middle Class?

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/07/07, 7:17 pm

Huckabee screams tax reform, yet in Arkansas he raised taxes more than he lowered them.  To me, his words are suspect because they are not backed up by action.

By the way, that child-major in Pittsburgh..Democrat..he was elected by 64%.  The city of Pittsburgh is going to get what it asked for.  The city will be bankrupt again in two years and this time it is doubtful the state will come in on its white horse to bail these irresponsible politicians and the city out of its problems.  They are building a tunnel under one of the rivers against the people's desires [millions and millions of dollars]..this is just one thing that is going to cost overrun to the point of breaking the city.  Stupid, stupid people.  The "D" is all they have ever known and will ever vote for.

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Re: Who Represents The Middle Class?

Postby Dlanorrenrag on 12/06/07, 11:04 pm

"Huckabee screams tax reform, yet in Arkansas he raised taxes more than he lowered them."


I doubt such a statement is well supported by reasoned analysis of context.

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Hungering For Civilizing Morphogenesis Among Economies:

A social economy may come efficiently to educate and assign its members to meet diverse needs.
Thus, may leadership for any such economy ever safely rest?
No.

Maslow’s hierarchy does not present cyclical challenges only to human bodies and families. Rather, competitive cycles challenge entire economies. Economies, in turns, become challenged, successful, creative, comfortable, unbalanced, jaded, degenerate, foppish, self involved, drugged, purposeless, worn out, or weakened or invigorated by physical or spiritual competitions.

So, WHAT IS THE HEALTH OF OUR PRESENT SOCIAL ECONOMY, in view of challenges soon likely to approach our civilization?

In respect of any cyclical scale or balance, where are we presently? Seeing our position, may we yet have power to extend or control our cycle? May we give rest or redirection, either to our bodies or to our economies?
May any economy be sustained or conserved, once it ceases to expand? May muscles retain tone, when not regularly used? Must our desires and needs now be stirred, continuously, in order to prop us up? Once basic needs are met, how must or should our needs continue to be shaped — artificially?

To sustain regimen for exercising our economy, must we now entice opportunists to churn demand and free-trade for porn, drugs, addiction, foppery, decadence, abuse, self destruction, familial destruction, malaise, and anarchy?
Is there an alternative, that could better entice respect for: sustainable demographics; conservation of environment; human expression in sports and arts; exploration of technology, science and space; philosophy; spirituality; enlightened empathy; and civilizing purposefulness?

How should a respectable civilization be protected and promoted — in respect of borders, defense, fair trade, and example?

COMMENT: Respectable Civilization is not well served by (liberal democrats) opening borders to un-assimilable, primitive tribes, by (unfair trading republicans) drafting members to compete at levels of primitive tribes, or by (human secularists) losing empathy for a common, spiritual, inspiring source of purposeful consciousness, in respect of That Which defines and is in common for each of us.
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