Taylor wrote:I need 2 things, A bat and a stack of get out of jail/prision free cards. I'm sick of this crap that's been happening. If America doesn't turn around sooner or later, theres gonna be chaos more chaos than 3 liberals at a Rush Limbaugh event.

I hate to say it, but I think you may be right.  Until the last year or two, the idea of revolt by some Americans seemed an absurd and fantastical idea, limited to neo-nazi skinheads, and various cultish militias.

Now, however, I see armed revolution as an almost foregone conclusion at some time in the future if trends in the Federal government are not stopped and reversed.

I imagine that such a revolt would begin in Texas or another Southwestern state, although there's already a movement to secede from the union in both S. Carolina and New Hampshire --  though the one in N.H. is driven by liberalism and BDS.

The outcome of any future rebellion, revolt will be dependent upon which side higher-ups in the military choose to support.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, or even a prediction; it's just what I see as a strong possibility in a future in which the U.S. Federal Government continues along the path to communism, despotism, and globalism.  Believe it or not, there are already enough people so hopping-mad at the U.S. govt that they'd be willing to pick up their guns tomorrow, if it came to that.

I don't know if this will happen or not; but I do have one recommendation if you think armed revolt is a future possibility too:
      Sell any legally bought and registered guns that you own, and buy guns illegally.  Yes, I am actually recommending that you break the law if you wish to own a gun.  
      I, personally, don't own a gun; & don't want one.  But if I were to buy one, I would never, I repeat ... NEVER, register a weapon with the government.  I would argue that gun registration is an unconstitutional violation of the 2d Amdt; but, more importantly, GOD (or Natural Law) gave me the ABSOLUTE, UNEQUIVOCAL, UN-REGULATABLE RIGHT to own a weapon.  Not only for defense of self, family and property; but also for the express purpose of using it to defend myself from a tyrranical government.

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

I know this is off-topic; I'm not sure how I ended up ranting about the 2d Amdt. on a thread about tv & movie programming unsuitable for kids.  

I think that if anyone wants to continue to talk about this subject, we should move it to a new thread.  

Sorry to get so off-topic.

I happen to agree with you about guns. All this hoopla about applying for and registring guns is totally bogus. The government is not supposed to make ANY kind of law regarding ownership of firearms. But just like everything else, they sniff and cry that it's for "the children" and citizens let them strip away more rights.

Eyas wrote:
The outcome of any future rebellion, revolt will be dependent upon which side higher-ups in the military choose to support.

Wow!  Wow!  So many issues in a posting like this.  The men and women I know in the armed forces respect the constitution and chain of command so much more than the political class that I cannot think of them participating in a revolution.  

Yet, at the same time, I cannot see the Citizen Soldiers of the US Armed Forces firing on US Citizens.  I mean, even the Russian, Romanian, and East German armies didn't do that when the time came.  Ironically, only the "liberal" Serbians unleashed their army on the people when Yugoslavia fell apart.  

I believe we can reclaim the foundation of this great Republic without resort to violence.  If I didn't I would take my family somewhere else.

Hell, if I was getting a Tax Rebate, I'd buy a few American made things, those being: An AR-15 and as many bullets as I can get my hands on. Why? Because after this election is over, the terrorists will be walking across the border with the illegals. I really liked that guy that called into Schnitt today lol.

paleocon wrote:
I believe we can reclaim the foundation of this great Republic without resort to violence.  If I didn't I would take my family somewhere else.

I believe that we can too.  At least I hope that we can.  However, I think the chances of avoiding some armed rebellion by some American citizens gets smaller and smaller every year.

It's pretty clear that this nation has been on a course of exponentially increasing socialism (communism) over the last half century or more.  I'm simply projecting into the future what I think will become inevitable UNLESS we can reclaim the founding principles of this nation.

I can't say whether it will or won't happen; and, I certainly do not see it as imminent.  But if this country stays on the same course without massive reform, the only other outcome I see is utter Despotism.  Frankly, I'd prefer revolution to despotism.

paleocon wrote:
The men and women I know in the armed forces respect the constitution and chain of command so much more than the political class that I cannot think of them participating in a revolution.  

Yet, at the same time, I cannot see the Citizen Soldiers of the US Armed Forces firing on US Citizens.

You'd have to go along with my hypothetical future revolution to understand what I mean.

IF it comes to revolution (humor me -- pretend) what role would you see the U.S. military having?

Wow, I totally drove this thread off the rails, topic-wise.

Sorry.

Eyas wrote:

paleocon wrote:
The men and women I know in the armed forces respect the constitution and chain of command so much more than the political class that I cannot think of them participating in a revolution.  

Yet, at the same time, I cannot see the Citizen Soldiers of the US Armed Forces firing on US Citizens.

You'd have to go along with my hypothetical future revolution to understand what I mean.

IF it comes to revolution (humor me -- pretend) what role would you see the U.S. military having?

Well, I don't think I understand enough of any of the scenarios you might envision to say.  I can imagine politicians dreaming up ways to use the military to suppress freedom.  But, I cannot imagine military professionals dreaming up ways to do so.

Don't be too sure about who our military will shoot.


The Kent State shootings, also known as the May 4 massacre or Kent State massacre, occurred at Kent State University in the city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of students by members of the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. Four students were killed and nine others wounded, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.

The Military will do what the Civilian Government  tells them to do.  That is the way it works in the U.S. because otherwise, the Military could overtake the Government.  They take orders.  Would there be members of the military who would refuse?  Absolutely.  They'd be given Article 15s and thrown into the Ft Leavenworth prison.

Now I know what the AR in AR-15 means! Anyway, yeah the military could over throw the gov't with out hesitation.

But they wouldn't because they report to and take direction from the Civilian Government.