What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

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What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby paleocon on 06/26/08, 10:19 am

It looks like Antonio López de Santa Anna and Pancho Villa all over again!  

Let's get this straight.  Three men who may be Mexican soldiers cross the border, go all the way to Phoenix and kill a homeowner and shoot up the place with 50 to 100 rounds of ammo.  

I guess hanging out in front of Home Depot isn't good enough for illegals now.  

Where the hell is our National Guard!  Can someone ask Senators Kennedy and McCain why they haven't built the fence yet?  

Police Report: Mexican Army Members Busted for Home Invasion and Murder
The suspects may have been hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations in the U.S.

Police reports show that three men arrested in a Phoenix home invasion and homicide Monday may have been active members of the Mexican Army.

While on the J.D. Hayworth show, Phoenix Law Enforcement Association President Mark Spencer said that the men involved were hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations.

The Monday morning incident at 8329 W. Cypress St. resulted in the death of the homeowner.  Between 50 and 100 rounds were fired at the house.

Spencer said a police officer told him that one of the men captured said they were completely prepared to ambush Phoenix police, but ran out of ammunition.

He added that all were all dressed in military tactical gear and were armed with AR-15 assault rifles.  Three other men involved in the invasion escaped.

However, Phoenix Police have not confirmed the men were Mexican Army members.

Sgt. Joel Tranter said one suspect revealed that he had "prior military training," but "no credible evidence" that any of them were active in the military.


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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby Eyas on 06/28/08, 12:16 pm

You beat me to it.

I was just about to post this from Michelle Malkin:


Even Bigger Outrage–Mexican soldiers hitmen arrested for murdering man in his Phoenix, Arizona home
June 26, 2008

If you thought this was bad, wait till you see this.


The suspects may have been hired by drug cartels to perform home invasions and assassinations in the U.S.
Police reports show that three men arrested in a Phoenix home invasion and homicide Monday may have been active members of the Mexican Army.



Full tactical gear, AR-15s, 50-100 rounds burped off at the victim’s house (who was suspected to be a marijuana dealer) and alleged plans to “ambush” any Phoenix PD officers who tried to stop them.

When the Wall Street Journal says, “Let there be open borders”, is this what they had in mind?

Forget the fence for just a second and think about this:

The Mexican Army has made several incursions across our Southern border. Some were probably just units getting lost, some had a more sinister reason behind them…but given the recruitment of elite military assassination squads by the cartels, this should be seen as a serious problem.

It would be overstating the problem to say that “the Mexican military is invading us”. But there is a criminal, militarized element that is crossing the border with impunity and distressing regularity, and for nefarious purposes.

Why is President Bush pulling the National Guard off the border? Granted, there have been some problems, but why should we leave potential combat with a militarized incursion to the Border Patrol?

Okay, now think about the fence again. Real, please, not virtual.
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UPDATE: That Fox item linked above (and the AZ Republic) is saying they weren’t active Mexican soldiers, but that one had received military training. So, okay, nothing to worry about then. Just business as usual. Six trained hitmen in a Tahoe full of AR 15s and tactical gear can drive across the “border” and kill a guy in his house in Phoenix and expect to get away with it.
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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby Eyas on 06/28/08, 12:23 pm

This stuff hasn't been talked about a whole lot lately; but I'm still every bit as infuriated by this garbage.

The Mexican Army ............. read it again if you must, ..... the F*&*ING MEXICAN ARMY! has made several ........... go ahead, read that again, too ....... SEVERAL "Incursions" into United States Territory.  And now has killed American Citizens.

BIG NEWS ....... don't you think?

Well the MSM obviously doesn't.  They also apparently don't care that journalists along the border are being intimidated, threatened, and in some cases MURDERED simply for reporting about the chaos on OUR NATION'S BORDER and WITHIN our Nation's Borders.

In any other country.  At any other time. In any other alternate universe. This would be THE BIGGEST NEWS POSSIBLE.  And would be considered an Act of War.  REPEATED ACTS OF WAR, actually.

Michelle Malkin suggests that this is over-stating the case.  I disagree.

Even if it is, I'll gladly OVER-state this case because no one seems to even be "stating" it at all.  At best, the news reports we have gravely UNDER-state the problem.
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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby paleocon on 06/28/08, 3:20 pm

Well, you have to get up pretty early to scoop me! But, keep trying. You are a worthy competitor in the marketplace of interesting posts.

I agree that the situation on the border is unacceptable. Even if these last three weren't in the Mexican Army, it is clear that Mexican organized crime is conducting incursions into our nation. If we controlled our border these things would be much harder to do.

Bush is actually pulling National Guard units off the border even though border state governors are begging to keep them there because their presence works!

No nation can remain safe, much less sovereign if they don't control their borders. Our government refuses to perform this fundamental responsibility at great cost to the citizens of this nation. They give away trillions of dollars in unconstitutional programs yearly and yet argue about "fiscal responsbility" over the tens of millions necessary to control the border.
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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby Eyas on 06/28/08, 4:03 pm

The killers in the article may not have been Mexican Military; but would it truly surprise you if we found out that they were?

Corruption is a way of life in Mexico, and members of their military aren't immune. If these guys weren't Mexican military, where'd they get the uniforms & gear? Is there a difference between the Cartels and Police, the Cartels and the Mexican Government, the Cartels and the Mexican military.

This is the biggest issue in this country, in my opinion. It somehow affects most other major issues. It affects the economy, employment, energy, taxes, healthcare, welfare, crime, you name it. And worst of all, Terrorism. How can you fight a war against terrorists with a wide open border?

I don't like to say it too often, for fear of bolstering the arguments of Leftist wack-jobs; but this FLAT REFUSAL by the President to enforce the Border IS an impeachable offense. Of course, nothing will change with the next President, regardless of which one wins.
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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/28/08, 5:35 pm

Eyas wrote:The killers in the article may not have been Mexican Military; but would it truly surprise you if we found out that they were?  

Corruption is a way of life in Mexico, and members of their military aren't immune.  If these guys weren't Mexican military, where'd they get the uniforms & gear? Is there a difference between the Cartels and Police, the Cartels and the Mexican Government, the Cartels and the Mexican military.

This is the biggest issue in this country, in my opinion.  It somehow affects most other major issues.  It affects the economy, employment, energy, taxes, healthcare, welfare, crime, you name it.  And worst of all, Terrorism.  How can you fight a war against terrorists with a wide open border?

I don't like to say it too often, for fear of bolstering the arguments of Leftist wack-jobs; but this FLAT REFUSAL by the President to enforce the Border IS an impeachable offense.  Of course, nothing will change with the next President, regardless of which one wins.



Now, now..Juan has promised he has seen the light and will close the borders.. yeah sure.

Members of the Mexican Army (or at least people dressed to resemble their Army) have been seen as far as 20 miles across the border in Texas.  They were escorting drug cartel members and their drugs.  This has been going on for several years.  It would be an act of war if they were caught and proven to be members of the Mexican Army.  We can't go to war with Mexico..we need their oil and we are doing business with them.  The whole world is out of wack.  Our children are going to have substantially different memories than we have when they are seasoned citizens.  I'd say they'd have to go to the library to read about the free USA but those books will be long gone from the library by then as will any mention of our Constitution.
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Re: What Exactly is the Mexican Army Doing in America?

Postby Mr Jones on 07/01/08, 1:36 pm

I hope this is not true.
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