Torture

Torture

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/25/07, 7:05 pm

Another Special Report by LOCKED-on Magazine:

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Re: Torture

Postby Eyas on 11/27/07, 6:31 pm

Love those pics at the bottom.  A true reflection of who our troops are -- The best of all of us.
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Re: Torture

Postby Eyas on 11/27/07, 6:41 pm

Also, I don't want to get into a discussion of the definition of what is or is not "torture", but it has always been my opinion that nothing our troops have ever done, including what went on at Abu Ghraib, comes anywhere close to what I would consider "torture" in the context of treatment of prisoners of war.

Until I hear a reliable report of American troops hooking electrodes to testicles or physically & permanently mutilating a prisoner for no good reason - I consider the entire discussion of "torture" to be a farce.  Whether in the context of our troops' actions, or in the context of appointing an Attorney General - it is a damned joke.
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Re: Torture

Postby paleocon on 12/17/07, 11:54 pm

Liberals define torture as anything a Bush appointee sanctions.  If they did the same thing in 1999 it was okay because they did it.  If a liberal wins in 2008 and starts waterboarding every Muslim in the world it will be okay because a liberal is doing it.  

We are not allowed to make terrorists stay awake, sit in uncomfortable positions, keep their cells too warm or too cool, yell at them when questioning them, or even actually question them.  

If an interogator approached a terrorist and addressed him as "Sir" in a voice that wouldn't disturb a mouse some liberal idiot somewhere would scream "torture" because a Bush appointee was in office somewhere.  

In no other war have prisoners of war been given access to the US legal system.  And everyone understands these captives are not afforded the protection of prisoners of war because they are unlawful combatants by any understanding of the term.  Yet liberal morons want to give these monsters access to US courts.  

These people have to be utter morons to believe what they claim to believe.  Or they have to be traitors to the United States.  There really is no other alternative.
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Re: Torture

Postby The Great Owl on 12/19/07, 2:15 pm

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/12/911-confession-falls-apart.html


Here's another great success story  about torture.   Enjoy the complete moral decay of our once great republic.
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Re: Torture

Postby paleocon on 12/19/07, 2:20 pm

I always love it when LIBERALS lecture conservates on morality.  The irony keeps me laughing at these self-righteous loons for days and days.

LIBERALS didn't invent "moral decay," they just perfected it.
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Re: Torture

Postby Taylor on 12/19/07, 6:09 pm

Wow. I love our troops more. Damn f-bombing liberals.




This picture could just be a troop picking a kid up every though of that? Or just playing with him in an innocent way! http://fangsout.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... /iraq7.jpg

Bull S-bomb lol picture below, how do we know its a soilder catching and throwing a girl and not just tossing her up in the air and then putting her down in an innocent way wow these people are just sick.
http://fangsout.tripod.com/sitebuilderc ... /iraq2.jpg


       
[SIZE=12pt]Little boy biting soldier’s nose in a feeble attempt at self-defense.
                 
Heres what i have to say it could just be everyone is happy the troops are here and he looks like hes kissing his cheek.


I'm getting this website taken down its discusting and an insult to America and everything it stands for fbombing liberals. Unless it is someone elses site but still it shouldn't be there.
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Re: Torture

Postby paleocon on 12/21/07, 3:55 pm

For all of you who are convinced that waterboarding is the ultimate form of torture read this and reconsider.  

Of course, Liberals will blame Americans.  They will claim that either we manufactured the evidence or we actually ran the torture room.  

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TLVU3O0&show_article=1
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Re: Torture

Postby Taylor on 12/21/07, 7:21 pm

paleocon wrote:For all of you who are convinced that waterboarding is the ultimate form of torture read this and reconsider.  

Of course, Liberals will blame Americans.  They will claim that either we manufactured the evidence or we actually ran the torture room.  

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TLVU3O0&show_article=1



Okay, your really right on that. I guess i'm e-mailing TRIPOD and telling them or i'll just find a way to get rido f the site.
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Re: Torture

Postby Eyas on 12/25/07, 4:25 am

I wrote that I'm sick of hearing about torture in this country, cuz I just don't see anything that I would consider torture.

But, to expand on the subject, I'm not opposed to torture.

Our enemies are not signatories to the Geneva Conventions, and the idea that we should be hamstrung by "Rules of War" that our enemy doesn't abide by is asinine, and potentially dangerous.

Also, given the daily atrocities committed by Al Qaeda and other terrorists, I could care less if they were tortured.  Frankly, I'd prefer they were killed outright or imprisoned permanently.  But then, I don't know what kind of information we are getting from these "people".

There is constant mention of this idea that if we engage in torture, we will become no better than our enemy.
I think that argument is crap!

The idea that we will become no better than them by utilizing torture is equivalent to saying that you're no better than your enemy if he punches you in the nose and you punch him back.  It seems as if the distinction between aggressor and defender has lost its meaning for many people in this country.

War is a horrific, atrocious business no matter where, when, or who does it.  There is a difference between cooking Iraqi children in ovens and attempting to serve the child to their parents in order to intimidate them from supporting U.S. Troops (something Al Qaeda in Iraq did on more than one occasion), and torturing a captured Al Qaeda terrorist to extract information that may save American (or Iraqi) lives.

There is a difference between BEING evil, and engaging in otherwise evil/immoral acts under extreme war-time circumstances.  Even if we engaged in torture, we would not continue its use after the war.  The enemy, on the otherhand, has routinely used the most vile torture and murder as their modus operandi.  They will not cease to do so at any point in the future.

The current argument in this country about our so-called "torture" of Al Qaeda terrorist, is, to me, nothing more than an adjunct to the liberal agenda of losing the Battle of Iraq and the entire War on Terror.  Total b.s.
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