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Postby what on 07/07/08, 9:02 pm

Thanks Yeti.  I will handle it from here

Harris June 12 2008

http://harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=915

CURRENT RATINGS OF PRESIDENT, SENIOR CABINET MEMBERS AND PARTIES IN CONGRESS

"How would you rate the job (READ ITEM) are/is doing – excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?"


Base: All adults

Excellent

Pretty
[B]Good
[/B]
Only
[B]Fair
[/B]
Poor

Not
[B]Sure
[/B]
Positive*

Negative**

%

%

%

%

%

%

%


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
12

26

31

22

8

39

54


President George W. Bush
5

19

24

51

1

24

75


Democrats in Congress
3

19

40

33

5

21

73


Vice President Dick Cheney
3

14

28

46

8

18

74


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
2

22

33

29

15

24

61


Republicans in Congress
1

19

33

42

5

21

75


Congress
1

12

45

38

4

13

83
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby what on 07/07/08, 9:03 pm

Oops, i guess you will have to go to the link to get the chart. it didn't cut and paste well.
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby what on 07/07/08, 9:23 pm

watcher wrote:In response to one post by ‘What’.


I can help.  Its the fact that the Dems in congress are higher than the Reps in congress  FACT. What?
What does this sentence mean? The Dems use more drugs? The Dems are taller?

when they pull us out of iraq and finally kill osama, their numbers will shoot evben higher FACT. The Dems will pull us out of Iraq. What?
News Flash.  The United States is in negotiations with the Iraq government planning where our bases we be placed within the country. We will at sometime end an active military operation under current orders but our service members we be stationed there, as long as there is a need not only in Iraq as well as within the Middle East.
Not what i see on the news. i see them wanting us OUT. even on Drudge. funny

The Dems are going to kill Osama? What?
There are no Dems in congress that are active members of the United States Military so I do not see how anyone of them will being killing Osama  
The governement creates the plan and implements it. the Dems know who the real enemy is and are dedicated to finding and killing them UNLIKE BUSH who chooses to ignore them and let them grow in numbers and strength.

The problem with the GOP is that everyone knows that they are the cause of the nightmare situation we are in today FACT. What?
First this sentence is based on the predication that ‘everyone knows’ which is not based in statistical fact.
Second your use of ‘nightmare situation’ leaves open the question of what you interpretation of a nightmare is and since I don’t known I can’t answer
.  

WELL, try and determine how the country got to where it is today?? the GOP went to war based on lies, the GOP accepts torture as a war time tactic, the GOP does not have a problem with spying on our own citizens without a warrant, the GOP does not think detainees should get a FAIR trial to determine if they are indeed enemies of the country, the GOP gave tax cuts to the rich which has ruined our economy, along with letting the energy companies develope the energy policies that have made the rich beyond beleif to our detriment. the GOP backed the de regulation of the oil speculation market and refused to do anything about it. the GOP has done nothing to ease the mortage crisis that is kicking families out of their homes. The GOP ignored over 40 warnings before 9/11. is that enough?

all that Corporate welfare, greed, corruption, and incompetance is going to create a super majority in the senate and house, not to mention President Obama even you can see this, right?. What?
Clinton Administration: 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned.
Bush Administration: 2 Democrats and 1 Republican have been charged and convicted. 70 Republicans have indictments but investigations have been ongoing some for over 5years or more and there have not been any convictions. 1 Whitehouse staff member has been indicted and charged.
Obama’s near and dear friends and groups; William Ayers, Tony Rezko and ACORN. Those are just a few that come to mind.  That’s a good start for greed and corruption and he is only 47 years old.


Bush has resided over the most corrupt admin in HISTORY and no GOP spin will EVER change that. Sorry
Obama has a vision while John Mcbush is more of the same. What?
Was Obama’s vision in colour or black and white? Mcbush? There is no such person as Mcbush running for the office of the President.
A black joke, how sweet it is. John Mc Bush is indeed running for the Presidency under the GOP montra. deal with it.

even GOP lies will not convince the dullards this time. What?
This is another one your blanket statements that do not state anything specific. What is it that the GOP has said that you consider a lie.
Where to start?? we can start with the trashing of Air force one or Al Gore invented the internet, or we can go to WMD, Obama is a Muslim, John Kerry did not earn his medals, Bush did not know about secret prisons or torture, harriet myers is the most qualified, we did not fire US attorneys for political reasons. Oh there are SO MANY.

they learned their lesson the HARD way. What?
I repeat What?    that the GOP is full of corrupt, incompetant, fear mongers that do not have the workers interest in mind. if you are a rich white male then the GOP is for you.

Stock market in the toilet FACT, What?
Try 1916, or 1932 or 1939 or 1972 or 2001 look up the fact’s
I think Yeti already handled this one pretty good. quite a stimulus the bush team produced.

forclosures at hisotrical record highs fact, What?
Home ownership at historical records highs too. Too many people bought what they could not afford. You can see how the Democratic Administration allowed policy to pass that directly led to this. Of course Greed was the main factor in this.

HA HA , Home ownership has gone up EVERY YEAR since the number has been recorded. MEANING A NEW RECORD EVRY YEAR do to the growth in the population. if you are hanging your hat on that record, i will have to LAUGH OUT LOUD !!
still in BOTH iraq and afghnistan with no end in sight FACT( under GOP rule of course. they need the $$$ generated from war, thats why they dont care to win or get out). What?
This statement is so utterly stupid. War cost any country money it does not make money.
It makes money for the war profiteers of course, not the common man that has to fight in it and live under the fight for $$$ by huge defense contractors. It does cost OUR country in lives and tax dollars, but those dollars are going to huge companies like halliburton.  do you really disagree with that?

Deficit Clock burning up the bearings fact, What?
Fighting a war on terror is not inexpensive. Putting more and more people on entitlement programs is not inexpensive, just to name a few. To bad the war on the IDEA of terror has been added to suplementals this entire time and is NOT INCLUDED. Ask Bush aobut entitlements. HA

their policy of exporting jobs and importing crap made from child labor is no longer something they try and hide you disagree with this?? What?
Business has exported Jobs because of increasing regulations on corporations. Our legislature on the federal level but even more so on the state level just loves to drive business at of this country. It is not a policy to export jobs but is an effect of poor regulation and over regulation. Most of the regulations that chase business overseas are environmental regulations, tax structures and complicated filing procedures of tax documentation. We can then add trial lawyers to this list of reasons that business goes overseas. Mostly it is to expand. Business is in business to do business.
Child labour on goods and products from other countries have been boycotted in this country by the American people when it has been found out. Even the UN has a group that deals with this problem. This country and this government do not allow it here, nor do they condone or encourage elsewhere.


. gas prices, food prices, etc..etc... through the roof  Are they NOT
? What?
Gas prices are due to no energy policy in this country. Thank the environmentalists once again. Food, and anything that uses oil as part of the end product plus everything that is transported to market go up. This countries economical structure is based on oil and gas usage. That is not going to change because someone snaps their fingers and demands alternative fuels. Good old cause and effect. Drill for oil, build nuclear power, press coal into liquid etc. brings everything back down so we can continue to grow. True alternative fuels will be developed as a natural occurrence of invention. Our Democratic controlled legislature, as prices have climbed in the last two years, has done everything it can to keep anything that would allow this country to bring energy to market from happing. Gas prices were around $2.05 before Democrats took control in 2006. It’s now how much? $4.11 Good job Democrats. The DNC do not want this country to be energy dependent. They want to cause more and more people to be dependent on Government. That gives them control. Once in control they will move this country to Socialism and then the few at the top will determine everything. Welcome to Communism.

Read history. Wake up.   

The people see what total GOP rule has done and want to TAKE THE TRASH OUT !! Oh, they certainly DO  What?
The economy was doing much better before 2006. Check the Facts.

As for the rest of ‘what’s’ comments on other posts. They are nothing more than DNC talking points. Just because the word FACT appears does not make it so. There has been nothing provided that is an appropriate source to back these fact claims. DNC talking points are not facts. If one wants to state an opinion do so, but opinions don’t magically turn into facts.
The rest of ‘what’s’ posts are just more of the same. They are not worth anymore of my time.  
In the future a spell checker would be a good tool to learn how to use and even a half-hearted attempt to use standard sentence structure would at least make what is written easier to read.


talk about a post filled with gop bile and lies.
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby Eyas on 07/08/08, 1:18 am

Sorry, there's just too much.

Each post by Yeti/What/Exercitus (all the same guy) is filled top to bottom with about 20 misunderstandings, misrepresentations, false assumptions, erroneous "facts", and flat out lies.  Followed, of course, by group ad-hominem invective.

Furthermore, when one issue/presumption/assumption/"fact"/lie is addressed by anyone, the response is filled with brand-new, unrelated diatribe -- not direct response to any single issue, fact, or assumption.

It's essentially impossible to respond logically to such a barrage of insanity.  When one's opponent in a debate cannot be relied upon to address issues individually -- there is no longer any debate.

I do not want to bar or ban Communists from this forum, but this is ridiculous.

It is simply multiplication of bogus talking-points as prelude to ad hominem attack.

These clowns (this clown) need(s) to go.  There is no rational debate with someone who cannot focus on one single issue at a time.  

There's no arguing with lunatics.  (trust me, I've tried)
Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed.  -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby the Yeti on 07/08/08, 12:48 pm

Since there are NO comminists on this site, no banning is needed. RIGHT?? Eyas??   facts, logic, and reason are not talking points just becasue you SAY THEY ARE.  
and calling people communists is also an ad hominem attack. Practice what you preach PLEASE !!
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby bedbug on 07/08/08, 9:17 pm

I'll post it again. Communist, socialist, elitist, etc. How is identifying someone by the beliefs, or positions, they espouse an attack? Where I grew up we said, call a spade a spade. If you don't like being called out, don't support the agenda in question. Simple. If you do support the agenda, then wear your particular label with pride. Unless you are trying to conceal your real agenda. In that case, you should deny, deny, deny and skulk about in the shadows.

Now, go forth comrade and sow dissent among the proletariat, so they will rise up in socialist brotherhood and punish the bourgeois. Long live Comrade Stalin, . . . , er, Senator Osama, doh, Obama.
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby the Yeti on 07/09/08, 10:21 am

bedbug wrote:I'll post it again. Communist, socialist, elitist, etc. How is identifying someone by the beliefs, or positions, they espouse an attack? Where I grew up we said, call a spade a spade. If you don't like being called out, don't support the agenda in question. Simple. If you do support the agenda, then wear your particular label with pride. Unless you are trying to conceal your real agenda. In that case, you should deny, deny, deny and skulk about in the shadows.

Now, go forth comrade and sow dissent among the proletariat, so they will rise up in socialist brotherhood and punish the bourgeois. Long live Comrade Stalin, . . . , er, Senator Osama, doh, Obama.


Spoken like a true NAZI FASCIST !!
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby Eyas on 07/09/08, 4:53 pm

How long does this have to continue?
Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed.  -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby the Yeti on 07/09/08, 5:47 pm

Eyas wrote:How long does this have to continue?


the second tuesday in November.  then we can all celebrate until January 20th when the real party starts.
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Re: The Projected Democrat Tsumani

Postby bedbug on 07/09/08, 7:37 pm

the Yeti wrote:
Eyas wrote:How long does this have to continue?


the second tuesday in November. then we can all celebrate until January 20th when the real party starts.


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