The Projected Democrat Tsumani

by **watcher** on 07/06/08, 7:28 pm

Any liberal who is so obviously suffering from such a level of personal distress from their own lack of self-esteem and self worth tends to lash out at others in anger. This type of Liberal go to great lengths to attempt to twist truths to fit into their own limited narrow view of their self-destructive world. They say the word fact and believe that everyone else will now believe it to be so. When they are given a logical equation based on proven known statistics they attack with information that does not have any relevance to the equation. They point to comments that they perceive have been made and then attack these comments based on that false perception. When this familiar pattern of attack and retreat does not give them solace they resort to name calling and childish chatter.
This type of liberal does not believe that anything they do on his or her own is good enough. They have been taught that having someone in government controlling their life is the only way to live. They are not capable of doing it themselves. When one attempts to point that out to the liberal the only way they know how to respond is by attacking others.
They fill their lives will self hate because of their on inadequacies and only feel alive if they spread that hate. They are like the child who needs someone to take care of them.
The only hope for this type of liberal is that sometime in their lifetime they will be forced to have to rely on nothing but themselves and at that time they may find out what we have always known. Self-reliance is the key to freedom.

Hatred of others brings only more hate of ones self.

I will pray for your deliverance of this evil hatred.

by **what** on 07/06/08, 9:47 pm

Why do you continue to dream of me "lashing out" at others? I am just telling you the facts. you have failed to point out anything that i have said that is NOT true or "twisted".

the only people i hate are the ones who attacked this country and those who fight to see it fail. do you fall into one of those catagories ??

If your party hates government so much, why does it thrive to run it? into the ground, no doubt.

cant wait to see this country rid itself of the virus called the GOP. this country almost did not survive.

by **SoldiersMum** on 07/07/08, 12:08 am

what wrote:Why do you continue to dream of me "lashing out" at others? I am just telling you the facts. you have failed to point out anything that i have said that is NOT true or "twisted".   You have failed to point out anything that is fact.  You are spewing DNC talking points and opinion w/o any backup and throwing in your little gotchas all the while.

the only people i hate are the ones who attacked this country and those who fight to see it fail. do you fall into one of those catagories ??   Is that meant as a gotcha to that horrible, hatemongering person?

If your party hates government so much, why does it thrive to run it? into the ground, no doubt.  Is that a fact?

cant wait to see this country rid itself of the virus called the GOP.  this country almost did not survive.   Another gotcha?  Most of us on this forum are conservatives and not members of the GOP any longer.  How can you possibly call the GOP a virus when they are moving to the left or at best, center left?  I would think you should be touting their special qualifications.  Even Bush  who you all hate is not a true conservative.  It's amazing you all hate him so much when he has sided with the Democrats on No Child Left Behind, the Drug Program, Immigration, etc., etc., etc.  You should love him too.  McCain who has been your bossom buddy for years now should be loved by your party too.  I guess it is because we have gone from the difference between conservatism and liberalism to the difference between liberalism and socialism and no one attached to the GOP is leftist enough for you.  Oh, and by the way, again I ask...are you socialist or communist and why?

by **the Yeti** on 07/07/08, 12:07 pm

Ah, Soldiers Mum has abandoned her party and her once praised leader ( well up until the Primaries when we all knew that Bush would be an anchor). Is that the principles we keep hearing about ?

by **ultracon** on 07/07/08, 4:39 pm

the Yeti wrote:Ah, Soldiers Mum has abandoned her party and her once praised leader ( well up until the Primaries when we all knew that Bush would be an anchor). Is that the principles we keep hearing about ?

Who is the once praised leader, and when was he/she praised? None of us ever loved Bush because he isn't a conservative. He was just the lesser of two evils between Gore (you know - he invented the internet) - and John F-ing Kerry.

For example if you get a lib candidate that espouses 60% of your socialist views you accept them, even though you would really rather have the entire 100% socialist package. It rarely happens, so you get as much as you can through the candidate that comes closest. Although I must admit, you are getting very close to 100% with Obama.

by **the Yeti** on 07/07/08, 4:52 pm

ultracon wrote:
the Yeti wrote:Ah, Soldiers Mum has abandoned her party and her once praised leader ( well up until the Primaries when we all knew that Bush would be an anchor).  Is that the principles we keep hearing about ?

Who is the once praised leader, and when was he/she praised?  None of us ever loved Bush because he isn't a conservative. you must be a revisionist history major, LOL   GWB was gods chosen leader of the world right up until the primaries when you realized his policies were radioactive.

He was just the lesser of two evils between Gore (you know - he invented the internet)  Another GOP lie can you find me the ACTUAL quote where he said that??  you are the fact police, try an police yourself on this one.,- and John F-ing Kerry.

For example if you get a lib candidate that espouses 60% of your ~~socialist~~ democratic views you accept them, even though you would really rather have the entire 100% ~~socialist~~  democratic package.  It rarely happens, so you get as much as you can through the candidate that comes closest.  Although I must admit, you are getting very close to 100% with Obama.

I certainly hope not. i am switching to Barr. Is name calling still frowned upon by you and your fellow Mods? I guess "do as i say, not as i do" fits here.

by **watcher** on 07/07/08, 4:55 pm

In response to one post by ‘What’.

I can help.  Its the fact that the Dems in congress are higher than the Reps in congress  FACT. What?
What does this sentence mean? The Dems use more drugs? The Dems are taller?

when they pull us out of iraq and finally kill osama, their numbers will shoot evben higher FACT. The Dems will pull us out of Iraq. What?
News Flash.  The United States is in negotiations with the Iraq government planning where our bases we be placed within the country. We will at sometime end an active military operation under current orders but our service members we be stationed there, as long as there is a need not only in Iraq as well as within the Middle East.

The Dems are going to kill Osama? What?
There are no Dems in congress that are active members of the United States Military so I do not see how anyone of them will being killing Osama

The problem with the GOP is that everyone knows that they are the cause of the nightmare situation we are in today FACT. What?
First this sentence is based on the predication that ‘everyone knows’ which is not based in statistical fact.
Second your use of ‘nightmare situation’ leaves open the question of what you interpretation of a nightmare is and since I don’t known I can’t answer.

all that Corporate welfare, greed, corruption, and incompetance is going to create a super majority in the senate and house, not to mention President Obama even you can see this, right?. What?
Clinton Administration: 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned.
Bush Administration: 2 Democrats and 1 Republican have been charged and convicted. 70 Republicans have indictments but investigations have been ongoing some for over 5years or more and there have not been any convictions. 1 Whitehouse staff member has been indicted and charged.
Obama’s near and dear friends and groups; William Ayers, Tony Rezko and ACORN. Those are just a few that come to mind.  That’s a good start for greed and corruption and he is only 47 years old.

Obama has a vision while John Mcbush is more of the same. What?
Was Obama’s vision in colour or black and white? Mcbush? There is no such person as Mcbush running for the office of the President.

even GOP lies will not convince the dullards this time. What?
This is another one your blanket statements that do not state anything specific. What is it that the GOP has said that you consider a lie.

they learned their lesson the HARD way. What?
I repeat What?

Stock market in the toilet FACT, What?
Try 1916, or 1932 or 1939 or 1972 or 2001 look up the fact’s

forclosures at hisotrical record highs fact, What?
Home ownership at historical records highs too. Too many people bought what they could not afford. You can see how the Democratic Administration allowed policy to pass that directly led to this. Of course Greed was the main factor in this.

still in BOTH iraq and afghnistan with no end in sight FACT( under GOP rule of course. they need the $$$ generated from war, thats why they dont care to win or get out). What?
This statement is so utterly stupid. War cost any country money it does not make money.

Deficit Clock burning up the bearings fact, What?
Fighting a war on terror is not inexpensive. Putting more and more people on entitlement programs is not inexpensive, just to name a few.

their policy of exporting jobs and importing crap made from child labor is no longer something they try and hide you disagree with this?? What?
Business has exported Jobs because of increasing regulations on corporations. Our legislature on the federal level but even more so on the state level just loves to drive business at of this country. It is not a policy to export jobs but is an effect of poor regulation and over regulation. Most of the regulations that chase business overseas are environmental regulations, tax structures and complicated filing procedures of tax documentation. We can then add trial lawyers to this list of reasons that business goes overseas. Mostly it is to expand. Business is in business to do business.
Child labour on goods and products from other countries have been boycotted in this country by the American people when it has been found out. Even the UN has a group that deals with this problem. This country and this government do not allow it here, nor do they condone or encourage elsewhere.

. gas prices, food prices, etc..etc... through the roof  Are they NOT
? What?
Gas prices are due to no energy policy in this country. Thank the environmentalists once again. Food, and anything that uses oil as part of the end product plus everything that is transported to market go up. This countries economical structure is based on oil and gas usage. That is not going to change because someone snaps their fingers and demands alternative fuels. Good old cause and effect. Drill for oil, build nuclear power, press coal into liquid etc. brings everything back down so we can continue to grow. True alternative fuels will be developed as a natural occurrence of invention. Our Democratic controlled legislature, as prices have climbed in the last two years, has done everything it can to keep anything that would allow this country to bring energy to market from happing. Gas prices were around $2.05 before Democrats took control in 2006. It’s now how much? $4.11 Good job Democrats. The DNC do not want this country to be energy dependent. They want to cause more and more people to be dependent on Government. That gives them control. Once in control they will move this country to Socialism and then the few at the top will determine everything. Welcome to Communism.

Read history. Wake up.

The people see what total GOP rule has done and want to TAKE THE TRASH OUT !! Oh, they certainly DO  What?
The economy was doing much better before 2006. Check the Facts.

As for the rest of ‘what’s’ comments on other posts. They are nothing more than DNC talking points. Just because the word FACT appears does not make it so. There has been nothing provided that is an appropriate source to back these fact claims. DNC talking points are not facts. If one wants to state an opinion do so, but opinions don’t magically turn into facts.
The rest of ‘what’s’ posts are just more of the same. They are not worth anymore of my time.
In the future a spell checker would be a good tool to learn how to use and even a half-hearted attempt to use standard sentence structure would at least make what is written easier to read.

by **the Yeti** on 07/07/08, 5:37 pm

So much good stuff there watcher, i just wish i could help out .
can i just pick one, Please?? maybe two if i could be so bold??

1. I can help. Its the fact that the Dems in congress are higher than the Reps in congress FACT. What?
What does this sentence mean? The Dems use more drugs? The Dems are taller?

the Democrats in Congress have a higher approval rating than the Republicans in congress. if you would read the previous posts, you can see that is what they are talking about.

2. Stock market in the toilet FACT, What?

Clinton policies took the Dow from 3310 to 10868
Bush and his policies have taken the Dow from 10868 to a superb 11231

I guess that is great with the GOP in charge

by **bedbug** on 07/07/08, 6:31 pm

Correction. The dotcom boom was the source of the 90s economic growth. The dotcom bust was the initial source of the 2000-03 economic downturn. Which, strangely enough, even though it began in late '99 went unreported by the MSM until after the 2000 election. Coincidence?

Granted, the president gets credit for good times and blame for bad times. This is reality. But, your post implies that Clinton and Bush are personally responsible for the Dow Jones Industrial Average during their respective terms. I don't recall any outstanding pro-business policies of the Clinton Administration, nor any detrimental anti-business policies of Bush.

This one is a case of being in the right, or wrong, place at the time.

by **watcher** on 07/07/08, 8:02 pm

My response to ‘what’s’ comment
1. I can help. Its the fact that the Dems in congress are higher than the Reps in congress FACT. What?
What does this sentence mean? The Dems use more drugs? The Dems are taller?

Yeti’s response to my comment.
“the Democrats in Congress have a higher approval rating than the Republicans in congress. if you would read the previous posts, you can see that is what they are talking about.”

Yeti, a full sentence stating what one is talking about is the preferred standard of the written English language. What did not feel the need in taking the time to clearly state what he was referring to does not then make up to me to do that for him.
As long as we are on the subject who is more popular. State the poll that actually shows that. News media outlets and blogs are not considered acceptable reliable polls.

My response to ‘what’s’ comment
2. Stock market in the toilet FACT, What?
Try 1916, or 1932 or 1939 or 1972 or 2001 look up the facts

Yeti’s response to my comment.
“Clinton policies took the Dow from 3310 to 10868
Bush and his policies have taken the Dow from 10868 to a superb 11231”

Yeti, I must have a different understanding of what in the toilet means. My math shows that 11231 number is still higher than 10868. The importent number is the percentage of rate of return on investment dollar. That is what those years referred to. If you want to get in the number game why did you not state 14,164 the all time high on 10/9/2007. We can trade back on forth all day moving the final point number up and down, just like the stock market has always done. It’s the how much one makes while doing it that counts. The increase in the market point number is in direct correlation to how many more people are trading on the stock market. We have gotten used to hearing the media report the Dow is up or the Dow is down. Trading on the market can show trends of a good economy or bad economy but it not the total picture.

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