The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

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The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/14/07, 2:39 pm

THE OTHER WAR…
THE ONE OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
PART 1

They crept stealthily through the night towards their quest, hiding as to not be discovered by the guards. For the last two years, they have driven their SUVs, complete with grenade launchers, into the city, and snatched their prey right off the streets. Using their mini-computers they check their victim’s tax records to see how much money he/she earns and when they have found the one with a worthy bank account, they kidnap him/her. To date, they have tallied 70 hostages, two of which were lovely young women who were given to their chieftan as prize of their spoils.

Their procedure is extortion of the families of their hostages that are contacted with demands for monies in order to see them again. Once the families have deposited funds into designated accounts they throw the hostages out on the street.

In another city, three students were forced to kneel against a wall behind their school and were shot execution style.

And, in yet another city, five men attacked a mother of two and in her words were like “a pack of wild wolves in search of prey. They savagely dragged me like an animal, like a piece of furniture, and took me to a secluded area of the park, a hut, a foul place that smelled so bad that not even animals should be made to be there…”

Now, after reading about of these activities, you probably think this is a scenario straight out of Baghdad. However, you would be wrong. The city these people are stealthily entering is Laredo, Texas, the city with the dead students is Newark, New Jersy, the city with the attacked mother is New York City, New York, and these are only a fraction of the U.S. cities having similar events.

The people who are doing this are members of the drug cartel in Mexico and Mexican gangs, illegal aliens who come to the U.S. with the violence of jihadists. They have taken over many of the states in Mexico and behead people who try to stand up to them, in the similar fashion of Islamofacists.

This is a clandestine war some of our politicians do not want you to know about. The fact that 70 United States citizens could be taken hostage without their kidnappers facing any retribution from our Government and no mention of it in our mainstream media tells you all you need to know about the cloud of secrecy.

First, let’s discuss the sanctuary cities and then we will go back to the border. Both New York City and Newark are sanctuary cities where police as not allowed to ask legal status. Many of these people have had multiple arrests for criminal activities and were never deported. This country is having a very large problem with cities who extend sanctuary to illegals. Here is a listing of our current sanctuary cities:


Sanctuary Cities

Anchorage, AK Fairbanks, AK Chandler, AZ
Phoenix, AZ Fresno, CA Los Angeles, CA
National City, CA San Diego, CA San Francisco, CA
Sanoma, County, CA Evanston, IL Chicago, IL
Cicero, IL Cambridge, MA Orleans, MA
Portland, ME Baltimore, MD Takoma Park, MD
Ann Arbor, MI Detroit, MI Minneapolis, MN
Newark, NJ Trenton, NJ Durham, NC
Albuquerque, NM Aztec, NM Rio Arriba, County, NM
Sante Fe, NM New York City, NY Ashland, OR
Gaston, OR Marion County, OR Austin, TX
Houston, TX Katy, TX Virginia Beach, VA
Seattle, WA Madison, WI Washington, D.C.

*Newark, NJ recently rescinded their sanctuary status after the students were murdered, but is still following some of their original sanctuary policies.

Federal law requires local officials to hand over illegal aliens for deportation; however, these cities are disregarding federal law. Some of these cities are issuing identification cards so that illegals can get social services, apply for bank accounts and buy and rent property without U.S. legal documentation. Newark has begun issuing “locally legal” ID cards to illegals which provides them a myriad of services and benefits. These cities have forbidden law enforcement authorities to question the status of these people allowing many of the worst criminal element to go in and out of the judicial system without being identified as illegal aliens. Sixty percent of the members of Los Angeles’ most violent gangs are illegal aliens and ninety-five percent of all murder warrants in LA are for illegal aliens. The police are powerless to pick up even well-known, previously deported felons because of the city’s sanctuary city status. In New York, the Governor decided to issue drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens. Hillary Clinton, in the Democrat debate, when asked repeatedly would not answer the question of whether she approved of Governor Spitzer’s decision but the next day came out in favor of illegals having state driver’s licenses. On November 13, 2007, Governor Spitzer cancelled his drivers' license program citing national security as the reason, but the real reason was that he was inundated by the citizens of NY against his plan. Since over 70% of those citizens were against it, his program was not a good political decision for him. One wonders, should Senator Clinton become the Democrat nominee, how she will address the fact that she eventually came out in favor of giving drivers' licenses to illegals?

Nine of the nineteen 9-11 hijackers obtained driver’s licenses in Virginia illegally. In fact, nearly every one of the hijackers possessed a driver’s license. So being the Senator from NY of all places, Mrs. Clinton should take the terrorism aspect into consideration; however, the motor/voter rule in New York will bring in a bunch of new voters that she would apparently like to have in her pocket and that trumps security for her state.

In Washington, D.C., of all places, the police are not allowed to inquire into citizenship or residency status to enforce federal laws. How can Homeland Security allow this when there is every reason to believe some illegal immigrants are Islamofacists who would love to kill our President and members of our Government?

Some cities that have not declared themselves as sanctuary cities have invested in sanctuary policies due to their illegal immigrant populations. Such is the case with Miami, Florida, where portions of the city are actually controlled by militant Hispanic groups. According to Detective Moss of the Miami Police Department, “We have shied away from unnecessary involvement dealing with immigration issues because of our large immigration population.”

What will it take for these cities to change their policies? How many criminal acts will it take before the politicians admit there is a war?

If the Federal Government were to cut off funds to sanctuary cities, they would probably take a second look. However, the Federal Government isn’t going to do that. The politicians have been and are continuing to push through legislation to give amnesty to illegals despite an overwhelming public outcry against their actions.

They have ceased to listen to the will of the people and do not have the well-being of the country at heart. Part 2 discusses the politicians and their politics regarding illegal immigration and why they do not want you to know about the war being waged by the most hardened criminal elements of the illegal immigrant population.
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Re: The Other War - Part 2

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/14/07, 2:41 pm

THE OTHER WAR…
THE ONE OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
PART 2


Recently the Amnesty Bill was put down on a cloture vote that failed. The public outcry over this bill inundated Senators’ email boxes and shut down the switchboard of the Senate Office Building. Did the politicians get the message that the public wants the borders secured before doing anything about the 10-20 million illegals already in the country? They got it to the extent that the Amnesty Bill failed, but they did not get it to the point where they are doing what the citizens want or they have a hidden agenda and do not believe the citizens are smart enough to get it. They have, in total disregard of public opinion, taken the Amnesty Bill and piecemealed it into a group of smaller bills in an attempt to get the original bill passed a little at a time. The first attempt was the DREAM Act that failed for the same reason the Amnesty Bill failed. The next iteration will be the Agriculture-Jobs Act (AgJobs) which is currently in committee but will be up for debate on the floors of both houses soon. This bill was introduced into the Senate under S237 and S340 and into the House under HR371. They are all one and the same identical bills. They provide for Blue Card status and then adjust Blue Card aliens to permanent legal resident status (including their spouses and minor children). This is amnesty, pure and simple. To further point out that the politicians involved in these amnesty bills are ignoring the people, there is no mention of securing the borders in any of these three identical bills.

The original Amnesty Bill was sponsored by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain. After the citizens stood up against this bill, Harry Reid reintroduced it for another go around. This time, Senator John McCain removed his name because of the unexpected denouncement by his constituency and his sponsorship was replaced by that of Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.

Senator McCain during a question and answer session while campaigning in Simpsonville, South Carolina, stated he got a wake up call and now gets it. The borders need to be secured first. However, he is very quietly still co-sponsoring the AgJobs (Amnesty) Act which has no provisions for securing the border. This is as bad as Hillary Clinton waffling on the NY drivers’ licenses for illegal aliens.

Rasmussen, a major U.S. poller’s recent stats show Seventy-seven percent (77%) of American adults are opposed to making driver’s licenses available to people who are in the country illegally. Eighty-eight percent (88%) of Republicans, sixty-eight (68%) percent of Democrats and seventy-five (75%) percent of Independents oppose giving driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants. This is a good flavor of how the population feels about illegal immigration. Are the politicians listening to the voice of “We the People?”

The answer is a resounding NO!

In October 2007, the Senate voted overwhelmingly (95 to 1) to attach $3 billion in funding to the Department of Defense spending bill. The bill would have provided for the construction of 700 miles of fencing; procured Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, ground sensors and vehicle barriers; increased the ability to detain illegal aliens who overstay their visas and commit crimes; and provided for training for local officials to assist Federal border officials.

The Democrat leadership in the Senate removed the money from the bill in its final version.

The General Accounting Office’s report issued on November 7, 2007, confirmed that Customs and Border Patrol agents are understaffed, poorly managed, under-trained, under-funded and lacking in the numbers required to do the job. The report states officers exhausted from double shifts called in sick to avoid overtime duty, poor morale had driven officers out of the agency and some who are still there are allowing people to come thru the borders without question or proper ID. The LIBERALS now running our Congress apparently have a hidden agenda or they would have investigated problems at the border before removing the money to secure them.

So, since the Democrat Leadership chose to cancel the monies to secure the border, what are they talking about doing to counter illegal immigration? They are actually doing 2 things:

They are not planning to stop the war, they won’t even admit or discuss that there is a war on the border, they are planning to give the corrupt Government of Mexico $1.5 billion, helicopters and state-of-the-art eavesdropping equipment so they will deal with illegal immigration. Of course, in time, they will merely turn around and use them on us to enable their citizens to clandestinely enter the U.S. The money send back to Mexico by illegal aliens is the second source of income for Mexico, second only to their oil production. Mexico provides assistance to their population to get them to the U.S., including maps and GPS devices. They support illegal immigration and they aren’t about to use those things to stop the influx of their poorest of the poor who are bringing so much money back to Mexico. They will laugh all the way to the bank.

They are also doing the following:

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) has introduced two bills that, combined, could be used to create a vast border opening to Mexico, providing a virtual freeway for illegals and drug smugglers into the United States. H.R. 3287, the “Wilderness Bill,” proposes the Tumacacori Highland Wilderness as the new Forest Service Wilderness Area in Arizona on the border with Mexico. It is contiguous with the small, old, Pajarito Wilderness Area that is directly on the border and links the Pajarito Wilderness Area with Interstate 19 and the Interior of the country.

It would open a huge clear path for illegals and drug running while limiting the ability of law enforcement to intercede. It is the Wilderness border bill on a fast track for illegal immigration!

Illegal immigrants who leave ribbons of garbage along their well-defined trails have already trashed the most pristine parts of the Proposed Wilderness Area. The Forest Service has already lost control of illegal immigration from Mexico, but it will worsen if the Wilderness bill is passed.

HR 2593, the “Borderlands Conservation and Security Act of 2007,” creates a new Forest Service Wilderness Area in Arizona on the border with Mexico, exactly where a major illegal immigration traffic area and drug smuggling pathway already exists. This bill is full of misleading words to disguise the true intent and would shackle the hands of the Border Control on Federal lands.

These two bills together create a freeway for illegal immigration and drug smuggling that will be protected while the Border Patrol is handcuffed. By passing these two bills, Congress would create a massive area open to illegals and vastly strangle the ability of law enforcement and the Border Patrol to fight drug importation and illegal immigration.

These bills are scheduled to be debated in committee THIS TUESDAY! Pro-illegal alien Congressmen will be able to railroad this bill through quickly just as they have the amnesty bills.

H.R. 3287, the proposed Tumacacori Highlands Wilderness Area, would open wide an existing clear path through the Coronado National Forest for illegals and drug running, while limiting the ability of law enforcement to intercede. H.R. 2593, the “Borderlands Conservation and Security Act of 2007,” would greatly handicap law enforcement and the Border Patrol in the proposed Wilderness Area and all Federal lands all along the border. It doesn’t allow the Border Patrol to even operate on Federal lands anywhere, but is focused on a 150-mile stretch of border in just Arizona alone. H.R. 2593 is full of misleading words to throw the reader off as to its true intent. It even blocks the building of a fence along the border! Law enforcement will be affected severely.

Roads crisscross the Tumacacori area and the previous attempt to have it classified as "Wilderness" in 1984 was rejected on the basis that it was not a roadless area. A vast historic network of roads still exists with a huge increase in population of Arizona. The roads receive much greater use now than when the previous effort was made to classify the area as "wilderness." The current effort to create a Wilderness Area endeavors to circumvent the "roadless" requirement by "cherry stemming" the Wilderness Area into multiple strips of Wilderness between existing roads. The resulting map of the "Wilderness Area" is ridiculous: a large number of fingers of Wilderness between roads.

The H.R. 3287 Wilderness border bill is a fast track for illegal immigration. Combined with the proposed H.R. 2593, these bills could be used to create a virtual freeway for illegals and drug smugglers as a fast track into the United States, in an area exactly where a major illegal immigration traffic area and drug smuggling pathway already exists.
These two bills need to be brought to the attention of the citizens of the country and fast before they can pass them through, while there is still time for our voices to be heard.
[info on these two bills was extracted from RightMarch]

What is wrong with the politicians? Are they merely pandering to potential voters or are they setting up the scenario for a future United Socialist States of America?

For further information on the Border, see Part 3.
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby SoldiersMum on 11/14/07, 2:43 pm

THE OTHER WAR…
THE ONE OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
PART 3

Where can you order up 500 kilos of crystal meth and receive it the next morning? Why..that would be in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. The drug cartels have taken over many of the states in Mexico and are protected by a corrupt Mexican military.

These same cartel members and drug runners come across the border with their drugs and the Mexican military comes along with them. They hold 50 caliber machine guns on law enforcement officials to protect the drug cartel members as they pass into the United States. Corrupt Mexican military have been spotted as deeply as 60 miles into the United States escorting their drug partners. If that is not an act of war, then what is?

Why isn’t our Government doing anything about this? It is because of their agenda and the fact that they do not have the best interest of the United States at heart.

Politicians in the Border States have completely opted to support illegal immigration. Recently, six Texas mayors have actually threatened to sue the United States Government to block the border fence and stop the tightening of border security. One of these is the mayor of Laredo, Texas, whose city is the one that has experienced 70 kidnappings of its citizens. Mayor Raul Salinas said: “We have to protect our property and we will do whatever is necessary to ensure there is no wall.” These mayors claim that closed borders will affect the economy of their towns in that trade routes with Mexican towns on the other side of the border will be cut off. These mayors exchange National security in order to profit in cheap labor, black market dealings, and the drug trade.

Not everyone on the border agrees with these mayors. Eagle Pass, Texas Mayor Chad Foster stated, “The perception in some parts of the United States is that you build a fence and then migration stops. The reality is that it will slow down migrants by three to four minutes.” In reality, what little bit of fence the Government has put up is not solid, trustworthy defense against illegal immigration. Some people on the border are demanding the fence be extended from Brownsville, Texas, all the way to California and proper monitoring of the complete fence length be instituted. There is nothing that says legal trade could not be accomplished on the border towns, but apparently too many politicians are fighting against that scenario. Currently, Minutemen are working to install the border fence; however, that costs money, and they are completing what they can when the monies come in. You can donate money for the fence by going to: https://secure.responseenterpries.com/mmfence/?a=1020

The following are some of the problems for the Border States and the entire United States as a result of illegal immigration:

1. At least $10.2 billion is spent on illegal aliens effecting schools, bankrupting hospitals and over-running the prisons in California.

2. In Colorado, somewhere between $2-7 billion is spent on illegal aliens for schooling, medical, and social services. $20 million is spent for prison costs, for the 7,300 illegal alien criminals who have caused hundreds of victims to suffer death, accidents, rapes and other crimes.

3. Approximately $401 billion in federal taxes and an equal amount for local states and cities is not being paid due to the numbers of illegal aliens who are working under the table.

4. Some cites in Border States as well as Florida, Illinois, New York, and others have cities where the language is Spanish, not English. There are mini-Mexicos all across the United States.

5. Approximately 15,000 MS-13 and 20,000 18th Street Mexican gang members are residing in cities across the country distributing their drugs and committing horrendous crimes to include (but not limited to) murder, child molestations, rapes and identity thefts.

6. At least 400,000 anchor babies are being born costing at least $109 billion per year.

7. TB, hepatitis, parasites and a number of diseases like small pox, leprosy, and scarlet and rheumatic fevers are being spread throughout the United States because illegal immigrants are not health screened prior to entering the country.

8. All along the borders are areas where illegal immigrants are establishing residence. In these areas, which are being called “colonias,” the people are living without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads, poverty, filth, disease, drugs, crimes and worse. The New York Times (wonder of wonders) reported these “colonias” as being a new “Third World” inside the United States, and they are estimated to increase to 20 million within 20 years.

9. How many of the illegal aliens coming in from Mexico are actually Islamofacists? There is evidence they are flying into Nicaragua from Damascus, Syria and working their way north. Additionally, there have been reports that Hugo Chavez in his dealings with Amadinejad is actually training Iranians to disguise themselves as Mexicans to make it possible for them to assimilate when coming into the U.S. as Mexicans.


Those are just some of the problems surrounding the Illegal Immigration War our country is facing and our Government is refusing to deal with.

Again, the questions must be asked: What is wrong with our Politicians, primarily the socialist Democrats but also some Republicans? Why are they so intent on Amnesty versus the security of our borders? Why do they not recognize nor speak of the war the United States is silently engaged in? Are they merely pandering to a new voter base or are they setting up our country to become the United Socialist States of America where they will take care of everyone, especially the “New” poor [Mexican illegal immigrants they want to legalize] from cradle to grave?

Sources for all 3 Parts of this OpEd: RightMarch.com, Center for Individual Freedom, NumbersUSA, AP, The New York Times, Glenn Beck, GOPUSA, GovTrack.us, BillOreilly.com, NewsWithViews.com (Frosty Wooldridge), Cal Thomas
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby TheIndependent on 11/14/07, 10:38 pm

Mum, the country is Rome in it's last days, socialism/communism is the reason.


Abortion has destroyed this country in more ways than one. Is it a coincidence that we are allowing this illegal invasion of 40 million or more people to make up for the 45 million aborted kids?

God is not looking kindly on America anymore and we deserve it.
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby Valkyrie on 11/15/07, 1:34 pm

Very good article, it is so right on many fronts though what kills me the most is that our politicians cant seem to get it though there head that we dont want amnesty and they keep trying to ram it down our throats and cant undestand why we are against such an issue. They think we dont know what we want and that is evident when the US citizen foced them to kill amnesty too many times and turn there attacks towards talk radio which helped to kill these ridculous bills, while we have too political prisoners that this adminstration has locked up doing there job as border agents and our government gave and aided and a betted a crime to testify against the agents when he was illegal and caught with X number of pounds of pot. This Adminstrations track record on anything when it comes to the laws has been shady.
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby Eyas on 11/26/07, 4:46 pm

I hate to sound like a broken record, but there is ONE and ONLY ONE man responsible for the current situation on our Southern Border.

Current Federal Law prohibits illegal immigration. Current Federal Law prohibits remaining in the U.S. illegally, and provides that illegal aliens MUST be deported. Sanctuary Cities are in clear defiance of Federal. I'm not positive, but I believe that it is against Federal Law to hire an illegal immigrant.

There is only one branch of the Federal Government tasked with EXECUTING Federal Law. There is only one person in charge of that branch.

Unfortunately, this ONE person not only refuses to enforce Federal Law in total dereliction of his sworn duty, but has done everything within his power to worsen the illegal immigration situation on all fronts.
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby Eyas on 01/13/08, 3:15 am

Whatever one thinks of Glenn Beck (I'm certainly not his biggest fan), he is the one person who routinely and aggressively reports on illegal immigration and the ever-degrading situation on our border with Mexico.

Whether his report is accurate I can't say, but the other night he reported that within the last year (according to FOIA requested documents) the MEXICAN MILITARY, armed and in uniform, has made twenty-nine (29) incursions into United States territory.

I used to think that such actions would constitute an Act of War!




[I guess not, when the goal is elimination of the border, dissolution of United States sovereignty, and unification with Mexico -- All without input from (or even knowledge by) the American PEOPLE.  It should be noted that Mike Huckabee has named Richard Haass (President of the Council on Foreign Relations) as one of his major advisors.  Haass makes no bones about wanting a North American Union, the elimination of U.S. sovereignty, and subjection of the American People to a Global Government.  There are many documents, statements, and reports from CFR & Haass which make this clear, and they're online.  I'm trying to search out as much as I can, but a pretty good example is the title of the second chapter of Haass' most recent book: "Too Much Sovereignty?" -- Conspiracy Theory or not, Haass is an avowed globalist who advocates the dissolution of all Nation-States]
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby R John on 01/13/08, 4:37 pm

I personally have a great deal of respect and gratitude for Glen Beck. He Too, makes a difference. Check out some of these interviews on the link, if you want to familiarize a bit.  

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/list/196/
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby paleocon on 01/13/08, 9:06 pm

Eyas wrote:I hate to sound like a broken record, but there is ONE and ONLY ONE man responsible for the current situation on our Southern Border.  

Unfortunately, this ONE person not only refuses to enforce Federal Law in total dereliction of his sworn duty, but has done everything within his power to worsen the illegal immigration situation on all fronts.


It is ironic.  These would be grounds for impeaching a president.  Of course, nobody will ever make that demand as nobody currently in government has any intention of securing our borders.
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Re: The Other War - Parts 1, 2 and 3

Postby Eyas on 01/16/08, 4:10 pm

More on the Mexican Military, armed & in uniform, crossing the border into the U.S.


between 1996 and September 30, 2006, there were 253 confirmed incursions into the United States by Mexican government personnel.


http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/10/we-interrupt-the-campaign-season-for-a-border-reality-check/
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