I believe lying is standard Modus Operandi for the Communist DNC. They also distort the truth. Lay a network of blame on others and then repeat the blame hence to spin the lie. Then state the lie and repeat this lie using the very organized system of ‘talking points’ until it is believed to be the truth.  
This has been going on for years. It has been perfected.
The reason this works so well is that by the time anyone gets serious about pointing out the lie too much time has passed and ‘the lie’ has already taken root as being the truth.
With the news system we have in this country; the networks of alphabet soup stations, the daily newspapers and then add the Associated Press articles going out all over the world it becomes a major battle everyday to just keep up with the daily lies.
#1. The Republican Party has never been good as standing up and saying Hey that is not what is really going on. Buy the time they do it is basically way to late.
#2. The RNC does not appear to take an active rule in the day- to- day policies of the party as the Communist DNC. They do not use the ‘talking point’ system until again it to late and now they appear to be attempting some type of untruthful hype to cover it up and they appear to be desperate as well.
#3. The Communist DNC takes an active role in setting up and creating what I like to call the ‘fall from grace’ and the ‘create a criminal’ plan.
This is a two-prong approach to bring negative attention to the Republican Party in general and then remove the particular offending Republican from the party. This gives them the ability to proudly state that they are the party of the people.
#4. The Communist DNC uses the environment, race and the poor as shields. If anyone attempts to puncture a hole in one of those shields they open themselves up to a full court press of all of the above tools being used against them.

This election race is being run exactly the same way with the exception of the 527 groups bring added, who can now be used to put out a direct lie and the Communist DNC can claim it wasn’t them.

There are many examples of this. I can think of one that really fits the above very well is Republican Tom Delay the Senator from Texas

You have hit one of the nails right on the head.

1. Bush will not stand up against the Communist DNC with truth to counter their lies, innuendos, and talking points which the MSM spreads throughout for them. He has never stood up. Consequently, he is a liar, stupid, went to war for oil, was never elected, uses Presidential powers abusively, and it goes on and on and on. Same goes for Cheney. Haliburton, oil, etc., etc.

2. The Republican Party chooses to run the high road. They have not stood up either. Consequently, they are the culture of corruption, they lack gravitas, they are not for blacks, they are not for the little guy, blah blah blah.

3. Oh, and what about our troops? They are cold blooded killers. They are stupid. They are blood thirsty. They are inept.

4. And the war? There was no reason for it. There were no WMDs. The war was lost. Gen Petraeus is a liar.

I wrote ad nosium to the Administration pointing out that they expect our soldiers to go to war to fight yet they sit back and allow these people to carry the hearts and minds of the sheep we call citizens. Had they stood up from the get go, the Communist DNC would never have been able to do the things they've done or at least people would have had more than one view.

As it is now, they could speak up with great regularity if they grew some. However, it wouldn't matter. The Communist DNC has the MSM in its pocket. Republicans who come forward to say anything are ignored by our American Pravda. They might get a notice on FOX and then again, they might not since FOX goes with the same news as the AP. When they get the Fairness Doctrine passed, the only voice people will hear will be the voice of the Communist DNC.

Bush and Karl Rove are responsible for the Bush Derangement Syndrome plain and simple.

My favorite is the new Verb, "Swift-boat".

To be "swiftboated" is to suffer lies and calumny at the hands of a special interest group. Nevermind that everything the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth said about John "I served in Viet Nam" Kerry was absolutely TRUE.

Everyone in the media uses this term, and still they try to claim that they're unbiased.

The Communists in this nation are very, very good at defining the terms of debate; at using language; at creating new buzz-words; at propagandizing; etc..

Eyas wrote:My favorite is the new Verb, "Swift-boat".

To be "swiftboated" is to suffer lies and calumny at the hands of a special interest group.  Nevermind that everything the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth said about John "I served in Viet Nam" Kerry was absolutely TRUE.

Everyone in the media uses this term, and still they try to claim that they're unbiased.

The Communists in this nation are very, very good at defining the terms of debate; at using language; at creating new buzz-words; at propagandizing; etc..

I think the reason the verb "swift-boat" means to be the victim of a blatant lie is because it has the truth behind it and EVERYONE knows it.


Just for fun , what did the SBVFT say that was true.  This should be good.

the Yeti wrote:Just for fun , what did the SBVFT say that was true.  This should be good

So it's your view that Kerry (1 man)  was telling the truth, and all of the soliders (250 - some who actually served with Kerry) were lying...

I would say it's up to you to 'prove' that all those 250 soldiers are lying, and it's Kerry who's telling the truth.

To be PC: You are intelligence challenged.

ultracon wrote:

the Yeti wrote:Just for fun , what did the SBVFT say that was true.  This should be good

So it's your view that Kerry (1 man)  was telling the truth, and all of the soliders (250 - some who actually served with Kerry) were lying...

I would say it's up to you to 'prove' that all those 250 soldiers are lying, and it's Kerry who's telling the truth.

To be PC: You are intelligence challenged.

And you're the Mod ?? WOW.

If you will read further back to the post i was refering to, you would see that Eyas was the one who made the initial claim that kerry lied.  I was speaking to him. If you would like to BUTT in and give your OPINION on OUR conversation. that is OK with me. But try and stay on subject. Why dont you try and give me the LIES.  I only need the US NAVY to do my debating for me. they have said all along, and to this day still say, that John Kerry earned ALL his medals, purple hearts, and honorable discharge.  

Do you still have your disgracefull purple heart band aide??

And i am not even a fan of Kerry. I just know a SMEAR of a fellow soldier when i see one. As does the United States Navy.  lighten up, "mod" , i just got here. quite the welcome wagon.

I wasn't arguing about who made the original claim, I was commenting on your rebuttal of it. - Since you put up a weak argument, I chose to expose it. If my response to your reply was off topic, then so was your original reply. Basic logic really..

John Kerry is a disgrace and he threw his medals in the trash, and his country under the bus. He's a traitor that should be in jail for his lies about his fellow servicemen. Do you know what he said about our soldiers during that time with absolutely no proof!!! He threw the SBVFT and the entire US military under the bus and was responsible for turning many Americans against our military with his lies.

Tell me who the true patriots are.....  Kerry is a traitor...

ultracon wrote:I wasn't arguing about who made the original claim, I was commenting on your rebuttal of it. - Since you put up a weak argument, I chose to expose it.  If my response to your reply was off topic, then so was your original reply.  Basic logic really..

John Kerry is a disgrace and he threw his medals in the trash, and his country under the bus.  He's a traitor that should be in jail for his lies about his fellow servicemen.  Do you know what he said about our soldiers during that time with absolutely no proof!!!  He threw the SBVFT and the entire US military under the bus and was responsible for turning many Americans against our military with his lies.

Why do you hate the troops so much ??  I do know what he said. "HE HEARD STORIES OF...  

How did he throw the Smearboatliarsforbush under the bus ?? It was the United States NAVY that threw them under the short bus that they were riding on.   you believe a few paid shills for the GOP over the United States Navy ??

Why do you hate the military so much ??

The funny thing is that you probably were up in arms about Clark and his factual statement about getting shot down does not make you automatically qualified to be Pres.??

That would be like if i got in a car accident and was stuck in the Hospital and rehab for years,  i am qualified to be the head of the DMV.

ultracon wrote:Tell me who the true patriots are.....  Kerry is a traitor...

Troop hater.