The GOP cares about you.

The GOP cares about you.

Postby GOPER on 06/16/08, 7:04 pm

Now, I know that Rush has got you Talk Radio Types all worked up aboutComprehensive Immigration Reform for Undocumented Americans, CampaignFinance Reform, and other issues important to the Conservatism. I knowhe is saying that John McCain is not a conservative.

But thefact is, while John McCain has taken some Center to Right positions onsome of the more minor issues, ultimatley he is a much better candidatethan Barack Obama. John McCain is very experienced in matters ofnational security. Your very saftey depends on your vote. And he is aconservative on most issues, like Health Care.

You Talk Radiofolks are very important to our Voting Margins, and if we lost yourvote, it could cost us the election, unless McCain wins over some moreindependents.

You all say you admire Ronald Reagan, and RonaldReagan was a great compromiser. How do you think he beat the USSR? bycompromising! Do you think he would just slam his fist on the table andwalk away from the Republican party if things didnt go his way all thetime? Of course not. Ronald Reagan would have compromised some of his positions and supported the Republican Nominee!!!

Lets win one for the Gipper's party in 2008!!!!!
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby bedbug on 06/17/08, 1:13 am

In a word, wow. Please allow me the opportunity to shed some light on few points here.

First, the PC term Undocumented Americans is unacceptable. They are illegal immigrants. UA implies legitimacy. These people have in fact broken the law. Using PC lingo is the first step toward accepting leftist premises.

McCain-Feingold is a huge issue. It is an unabashed assault on the First Amendment. And, it did nothing to take soft money out of politics. Nothing!

To describe McCain as center to right is comical. National security starts with the borders. McCain's position on this core issue is crystal clear. He opposes the Bush tax cut package that pays for itself. He drinks the MMGW koolaid. He says he will sign Kyoto. He opposes drilling in ANWR. He opposes "extracurricular politics." He thinks government can "save" the economy. These are hardly minor points.

Health care is for the free market. McCain has repeatedly stated that government needs to make health care affordable. His statement implies government involvement, which ALWAYS drives up prices.

McCain is losing us talk radio types because he pokes conservatives in the eye on a very regular basis.

Ronald Reagan was not the great compromiser. HE was the Great Communicator. And, HE did not defeat the USSR through compromise. HE did so by bankrupting the USSR with an arms race their socialist economy could not support. The world screamed when HE deployed the MX missile, Pershing II missile, and Trident SSBN. HE pursued a rearmament and modernization program which gave us the most formidable weapons systems in the world. Did Reagan compromise when HE refused Soviet demands to stop SDI research? When HE said, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." When HE called the Soviet Union "an empire of evil."
On the domestic front, learned leftist economists claimed that supply side economics and radical tax cuts would destroy the economy. Reagan did not compromise his plan, and we know how that turned out.

This is the wrong place to mischaracterize Ronaldus Magnus. Now, go forth and sin no more. You might also consider anti-koolaid therapy.
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby bedbug on 06/17/08, 2:15 am

"Let's win one for the Gipper's party in 2008!!!!!"

The Gipper's party did not want the Gipper. The Republican Establishment wanted G. H. W. Bush. Conservatives chose Reagan.

The GOP does not care about us, conservatives. They want our votes, sure, but after election day they want us to shut up and go away. We are an embarrassment to the Republican Establishment. Why? We are principled believers in the Constitution, capitalism, justice, liberty and freedom. (Key word principled.) And, we loathe compromise with a leftist agenda.

Goper,
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby Eyas on 06/17/08, 8:14 am

I get it.

Good sarcasm is stuff that you can't tell is sarcasm right away.  Not bad.  

I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes.
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The GOP cares about the GOP!

Postby paleocon on 06/17/08, 10:28 am

GOPER wrote:Now, I know that Rush has got you Talk Radio Types all worked up aboutComprehensive Immigration Reform for Undocumented Americans, CampaignFinance Reform, and other issues important to the Conservatism. I knowhe is saying that John McCain is not a conservative.


Wow, this is a sure-fire way to win over disgruntled conservatives.  Label us "Talk Radio Types" and imply that we are mindless drones following Rush.  Way to go!  You are either Tom Davis (R-VA) or the only person in the party stupider than Tom.  Congratulations on losing any chance of winning us over in your first sentence.  Well done!  

By the way, we are not terribly concerned about "undocumented Americans."  It is all the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are NOT Americans that get us riled up.  And you have to be ignorant to call McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform."  Look at the money the Dems are raking in and tell me that McCain-Feingold did anything to reform campaign finance.  The only thing it did was to step on my right to exercise political speech during an election campaign.  Ironically, McCain-Feingold may cost McCain the election because the only campaign it is affecting seems to be John's.  He has so far been out-raised by the Dems by 5 1/2 to 1.     

GOPER wrote:But thefact is, while John McCain has taken some Center to Right positions onsome of the more minor issues, ultimatley he is a much better candidatethan Barack Obama. John McCain is very experienced in matters ofnational security. Your very saftey depends on your vote. And he is aconservative on most issues, like Health Care.


Yes, McCain has only offended conservatives over some minor issues like the first amendment, national security at the border, economic growth (tax cuts, MMGW, and Marxist statements about "unfettered capitalism").  Yes, the problem seems to be one of understanding.  We understand the constitution and John McCain does not.  

GOPER wrote:You Talk Radiofolks are very important to our Voting Margins, and if we lost yourvote, it could cost us the election, unless McCain wins over some moreindependents.


In the words of Ronald Reagan, "there  you go again."  "Talk Radio Folks."  Mind if we refer to you as "RINO, Socialist Sellout Folks?"  You spend your time insulting us and then belatedly realize you sort of need us to actually win.  Maybe you should have thought of that in 2006 when your sellout cost you the majority in both houses of Congress.  

GOPER wrote:You all say you admire Ronald Reagan, and RonaldReagan was a great compromiser. How do you think he beat the USSR? bycompromising! Do you think he would just slam his fist on the table andwalk away from the Republican party if things didnt go his way all thetime? Of course not. Ronald Reagan would have compromised some of his positions and supported the Republican Nominee!!!

Lets win one for the Gipper's party in 2008!!!!!


Ronald Reagan won and implemented HIS policies of limiting government and opposing evil.  There was no compromise involved in the defeat of the Soviet Union.  He set out to destroy a horrible and evil system and he did so in less than 9 years.  He was routinely reviled for even trying until it worked.  Excuse me, but that isn't called "compromise."  It is called "leadership" or "doing the right thing."  You as "RINO, Socialist Sellout Folk" evidently don't recognize either of those things.  

And allow me to make one last point.  The GOP is obviously no longer the Gipper's party.  He left the Democrats when they sold out.  I have no doubt at all that Reagan would have left the GOP by this point for selling out.  Go peddle your tripe elsewhere.  

And try to use a spellchecker the next time you pop in to insult us.  It is really galling to read your insulting, arrogant, elitist, factually incorrect emails when they are full of spelling errors and typos.
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby GOPER on 06/17/08, 1:08 pm

Hey bedbug, im out of time right now, ill try to respond to your message tomorrow if i get the chance.
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby bedbug on 06/18/08, 12:15 am

GOPER wrote:Hey bedbug, im out of time right now, ill try to respond to your message tomorrow if i get the chance.


I breathlessly await your words of moderate conservative wisdom.
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby paleocon on 06/18/08, 12:23 am

bedbug wrote:
GOPER wrote:Hey bedbug, im out of time right now, ill try to respond to your message tomorrow if i get the chance.


I breathlessly await your words of moderate conservative wisdom.


Well, he is obviously conserving on the wisdom in these posts.  Frankly, I am starting to think all this is sarcasm.  The only other option is too scary to contemplate!
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby GOPER on 06/18/08, 11:59 am

bedbug wrote:"Let's win one for the Gipper's party in 2008!!!!!"

The Gipper's party did not want the Gipper. The Republican Establishment wanted G. H. W. Bush. Conservatives chose Reagan.

The GOP does not care about us, conservatives. They want our votes, sure, but after election day they want us to shut up and go away. We are an embarrassment to the Republican Establishment. Why? We are principled believers in the Constitution, capitalism, justice, liberty and freedom. (Key word principled.) And, we loathe compromise with a leftist agenda.

Goper,
Think about these quotes, and you might begin to understand us.

When you here the word bipartisan grab your wallet. - Rush Limbaugh

Peace through strength. - Barry Goldwater

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! - Barry Goldwater

We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around. - Ronald Reagan

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views. - Bill Buckley

There is an inverse relationship between reliance on the state and self reliance. - Bill Buckley


You said you did not know who Bill Buckley was.
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Re: The GOP cares about you.

Postby paleocon on 06/18/08, 3:37 pm

GOPER wrote:
You said you did not know who Bill Buckley was.


Bedbug,

Please stop yanking his chain. He evidently doesn't get sarcasm which means his other posts are real!  This is the worst case scenario and quite a scary proposition!
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