jrg907 wrote:

jrg907 wrote:Never thought I would say this but it is time for a legitimate 3rd party.

  
After watching what is happening in NY, 23, I am reconsidering what I said about a 3rd party. Spent several hours today looking at conservative and liberal blogs. Neither are happy. Maybe we will end up with FOUR distinct parties. A far left, a center left, a far right and a center right. The way things are going now, the Republicans do not want any moderates in the party and neither do the Democrats. We may be in serious trouble but it is going to be very interesting watching this develop.

If that happens, our votes will be cut radically. that would mean in a four party system that anything above 25% will be a majority. I think that is a bad idea.

Jrg, you are probably on to something there.  I really do think we are headed for a strong third party, I don't know about the fourth.   I think we will have the dems, the repubs and the conservsative.  Which, will be the "I" party I think!  I'm not so sure a third party would be bad for American in these times.  I know how the system was origionally set up and how it supposed to work.  Someone said the other day, "WE ARE PAST THOSE TIMES"  That used to piss me off but after talking about our kids being raised in their own time, got me to thinking about what it is I am holding on to and if it's good in these days or not...

I feel that the REAL CONSERVATIVES of America are sort of forced into their own party.  Looking at both the parties, Democrats and Reublicans, neither of which really contains a conservative base anymore.  Seems the politicians focus on all the wrong things and don't listen to the people.

If we see a strong third party develop, eventually the Dems and the Republicans will unite because they are the same thing with different names. So we will probably end up with a two party system again, but I think there will be a lot of political turmoil before that.

My guess is that when all is said and done, there will be a strong third  party and possibly a fourth as well. The Republican Party used the conservatives for years by making vague promises and putting what conservatives wanted to hear in their platform. Then the Republican Party ignored them after they got their votes. Reap what you sow. I heard so many times that someone was going to vote for "the lesser of 2 evils". What the hell kind of choice is that?

Isn't it ironic that all the Republicans and Democrats turned out to be Politicians?  

My definition of a Politician has changed dramatically in the last few years.  If you are a true American loving conservative, I'll bet your's has changed also.

We can have all the parties we can muster up but you can't make a politician be anything but a politician.  Are we going to ban politicians from the third or fourth parties?  Something to think about before the two party system gets so screwed up we can't fix it...

jrg, invite the skeletons, mine follow me anyway...

jrg907 wrote:While I am on my soap box please let me have one last blast:
Why is no one leading a campaign for term limits? My guess is that almost everything that is wrong in Washington can be traced back to our elected officials number one priority: raising money for reelection. Instead of doing what they were elected to do by the people they are supposed to represent, they represent only those that are contributing to their campaign. It costs so much to run a campaign that our representatives don't have time to actually do anything other than raise money.
We have given control of our government over to big money lobbyists and the only way we will ever regain control is to have term limits.

Look for the current band of Marxist thugs to abolish term limits for even the 'presidency.'

Sailor Kenshin wrote:

jrg907 wrote:While I am on my soap box please let me have one last blast:
Why is no one leading a campaign for term limits? My guess is that almost everything that is wrong in Washington can be traced back to our elected officials number one priority: raising money for reelection. Instead of doing what they were elected to do by the people they are supposed to represent, they represent only those that are contributing to their campaign. It costs so much to run a campaign that our representatives don't have time to actually do anything other than raise money.
We have given control of our government over to big money lobbyists and the only way we will ever regain control is to have term limits.

Look for the current band of Marxist thugs to abolish term limits for even the 'presidency.'

Once this President has his emergency in 2010, he will suspend US elections or at least try. Democratically lead states will follow the rest will secede from the union. No matter how you cut it this administration is out to destroy the constitution. The conspiracy and corruption in this administration makes Afghanistan government look clean.