Saddleback Showdown

Saddleback Showdown

Postby dittohead on 08/17/08, 7:59 am

I thought the format for last night's discussions moderated by Rev. Rick Warren was quite good.  I have been a McCain skeptic, but he was surprisingly engaging and looked comfortable in front of the cameras.  

More importantly, I was quite pleased with the content of his answers.  I liked his answers concerning preserving our security as a nation, on when life begins, and his pledge to not raise taxes.  I also thought he gave a more reasoned answer to the question of what 3 people that he would lean on for advise as president,  and which supreme court justices did he most admire.

I'm sure the democrats are salivating over McCain's light hearted comment about $5,000,000 being the defining measure about wealth.  However, I though the rest of McCain's answer was great.  He said, 'it doesn't matter how I define the rich, because I don't intend to raise anyone's taxes.'

I also thought that Obama answered his questions well.  

I just don't like the 'change' that he has planned for our country.  His plans for making our already bloated government bigger is exactly the wrong kind of change for our country.  His desire to nominate Supreme Court justices who will legislate from the bench, instead of preserving our constitution is bad for our country.
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Re: Saddleback Showdown

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/17/08, 9:01 am

I missed the obama part, well the majority of it.  My husband watched that.  I did hear Obama's remarks about how it was going to be uncomfortable for us to suck it up and line up with the Weaning off oil and converting to alternative energy movement.   One thing Americans don't want is pain...especially pain that comes from a made up crisis.  We need to DRILL.  

I enjoyed RWN's analysis of the conversation, cause it won't no debate.   McCain did seem comfy, funny, presidential( thank you msm and this may backfire on you bums)  He gave McCain an A and Obama a C-.
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Re: Saddleback Showdown

Postby SoldiersMum on 08/17/08, 9:13 am

I missed it.  Did Obama say he would lean on Gyorgy Soros, Rev Wright and Bill Ayers if he were President?  Naw..didn't think so.

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Re: Saddleback Showdown

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/17/08, 9:16 am

We're not going to find out all about Obama's very very good friends until he is (God Forbid) elected.
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Re: Saddleback Showdown

Postby TomRice on 08/17/08, 9:40 am

It looks like Obama will get an eternal free pass on the questions that could bring him down. The foremost might be: what do you think of the Jena6 case?

Let's refresh, as I recollect it: in "racist" Louisiana, 6 black teenagers were facing long term sentences over a "schoolyard fight". Assault with a deadly weapon? Attempted murder?  Ludicrous and racially motivated charges to be sure, because how can a "sneaker" be a deadly weapon? It's obvious that the racist whites were picking on those poor black students just because they're black.

At least, that's the version which was given by Sharpton and which was largely unchallenged by anybody. White TV hosts are always afraid of being called a "racist", after all. And so the reverse racists used the Jena6 case as a litmus test, to determine if whites were racist or not. How could anybody not want to overturn this racist injustice?

But the real facts were different. In reality, a gang of six blacks attacked a single innocent white victim from behind. The attack was over racial conflict, of which the victim had not been a part. Once the victim was unconscious on the ground, the attackers kicked him in the head, even at the temple area - where photographs document the injury. Now, if you want to kill somebody, and you have no weapon and no particular knowledge of unarmed deadly techniques (like effective strangle holds), then the best chance you have is to kick somebody in the head - especially in the temple area. In fact, I know of a case exactly like that from a dozen years ago or so, where the victim did die and the killers were convicted.

The main attacker in the Jena6 case had even once been turned in by his own family for a violent assault on a female family member.

But in this case, the victim did not die. And the victim was not the real victim anyway. The six thugs were declared to be the victims... of supposed "racism". There was even a fairly large rally, attended by many liberal whites from all over the country. One of the thugs was featured as an honored guest at a rap concert, receiving the cheers and admiration of the crowd. (That reminded me of OJ as honored guest on BET, with the hosts gushing over him.)

So who are the real racists here? (And why do white conservative talk show hosts always only defend themselves from accusations of "racism" but never say "you are the real racists"? )

The even more general point concerns the tidal wave of reverse bigotry which is controlling this country. The straight white Christian male is always regarded as the evil oppressor, and anybody non-white non-Christian non-straight is automatically the innocent victim deserving of sympathy. That reverse bigotry is why liberal hearts bleed so much for Gitmo detainees, but not for victims of Muslim beheadings. When Christians are arrested for hate crimes merely for carrying protest signs at gay rallies, that's reverse bigotry. Reverse bigotry is the biggest danger that Western countries face today. I think that Obama is filled with reverse bigotries, and that's why he's soft on Islamic terror groups. That's why Obama is in the "blame America first" crowd.

So Obama should be pinned down about his opinion on the touchstone case of the Jena6 thugs... but he won't be, because he gets a free pass on any tough questions that would endanger him.
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