Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby TheIndependent » 02/08/08, 10:37 pm

If Romney would have said the things he said at CPAC  in the debates he would  be the front runner today.

If Reagan were alive today  he would give a speech saying almost exactly what Romney said at CPAC. The part about fatherless families was so right on mark it almost brought tears to my eyes because I grew up without a father around.  Oh well, I hope Romney will run again, I really think that the next president is going to be a one termer because  the problems we face are not going to be solved by big government. The projected deficits this country faces are so large tax hikes will throw the country into a depression and won't even come close to solving the problem.

The government has to bail out  from it's liabilities, there is no way they can be paid for when we already have a $9 Trillion dollar deficit.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby SoldiersMum » 02/09/08, 6:39 pm

TheIndependent wrote:If Romney would have said the things he said at CPAC  in the debates he would  be the front runner today.

If Reagan were alive today  he would give a speech saying almost exactly what Romney said at CPAC. The part about fatherless families was so right on mark it almost brought tears to my eyes because I grew up without a father around.  Oh well, I hope Romney will run again, I really think that the next president is going to be a one termer because  the problems we face are not going to be solved by big government. The projected deficits this country faces are so large tax hikes will throw the country into a depression and won't even come close to solving the problem.

The government has to bail out  from it's liabilities, there is no way they can be paid for when we already have a $9 Trillion dollar deficit.



From what Ann Coulter said, Romney did give alot of speeches just like that.  The MSM never covered anything but his Mornon speech and the CPAC speech.  I don't know..he never made it to Pennsylvania so I never heard him speak.  

I hate to tell you but the national debt is alot more than the $9 trillion deficit...more like 4-5-6 times that.  If every man, woman and child in this country paid $150,000, it would not cover the national debt.  The Democrats want to put in universal healthcare..the dollar is dwindling down (Soros and Buffet have suggested to all their friends that they divest their dollars into  Euros and China's currency)..too many countries like China, Saudia Arabia, Dubai, etc., (not necessarily our very good friends) own our debt.  Our future looks not too swell and who is being nominated for the Republican Party?  Juan McCain   He says he isn't up on the economy..duh.  He's been spending our dollars for nearly half a century and he isn't up on the economy?!?  The best thing he could do is to put Romney on as his VEEP and then turn him loose on the economy if they win.  However, that won't happen.  McCain's not that bright, Romney would outshine him and McCain would never stand for that.

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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby Antisoros » 02/09/08, 8:35 pm

It was one of his best speeches ever, too bad the context was so sad. I'm thinking we'll all pay for not nominating Mitt Romney, McCain is a big mistake IMO.

I'm not so sure about Mitt's future in the GOP, though - I do wonder if the double stigma of being both from MA (or MI, same thing to some), and/or Mormon was just too much to overcome for him. Loss.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby TheIndependent » 02/09/08, 9:05 pm

SoldiersMum wrote:
TheIndependent wrote:If Romney would have said the things he said at CPAC  in the debates he would  be the front runner today.

If Reagan were alive today  he would give a speech saying almost exactly what Romney said at CPAC. The part about fatherless families was so right on mark it almost brought tears to my eyes because I grew up without a father around.  Oh well, I hope Romney will run again, I really think that the next president is going to be a one termer because  the problems we face are not going to be solved by big government. The projected deficits this country faces are so large tax hikes will throw the country into a depression and won't even come close to solving the problem.

The government has to bail out  from it's liabilities, there is no way they can be paid for when we already have a $9 Trillion dollar deficit.



From what Ann Coulter said, Romney did give alot of speeches just like that.  The MSM never covered anything but his Mornon speech and the CPAC speech.  I don't know..he never made it to Pennsylvania so I never heard him speak.  

I hate to tell you but the national debt is alot more than the $9 trillion deficit...more like 4-5-6 times that.  If every man, woman and child in this country paid $150,000, it would not cover the national debt.  The Democrats want to put in universal healthcare..the dollar is dwindling down (Soros and Buffet have suggested to all their friends that they divest their dollars into  Euros and China's currency)..too many countries like China, Saudia Arabia, Dubai, etc., (not necessarily our very good friends) own our debt.  Our future looks not too swell and who is being nominated for the Republican Party?  Juan McCain   He says he isn't up on the economy..duh.  He's been spending our dollars for nearly half a century and he isn't up on the economy?!?  The best thing he could do is to put Romney on as his VEEP and then turn him loose on the economy if they win.  However, that won't happen.  McCain's not that bright, Romney would outshine him and McCain would never stand for that.


I've made up my mind, I'm voting for Ron Paul, he truly is the most consevative person still running. Huckabee gives me the creeps, he is as phony as a 3 dollar bill and McCain is an insane lunatic who will get us into a nuclear war.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby paleocon » 02/11/08, 12:09 am

Antisoros wrote:It was one of his best speeches ever, too bad the context was so sad. I'm thinking we'll all pay for not nominating Mitt Romney, McCain is a big mistake IMO.

I'm not so sure about Mitt's future in the GOP, though - I do wonder if the double stigma of being both from MA (or MI, same thing to some), and/or Mormon was just too much to overcome for him. Loss.


I don't know exactly what killed Romney's campaign.  I think people will spent a bit of time debating that question.  One thing keeps popping up again and again is that the other candidates "despised" him but they don't say why.  If McCain hates Romney then that means Romney definitely deserves another look.  After all, I know I don't want anything to do with the people McCain likes:  Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, and Feingold....
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby Antisoros » 02/14/08, 8:16 pm

LOL @ Independent - "insane lunatic"....? Sounds like an apt description of Juan to me, but I still think Ron Paul is what they used to call "bent".

Paleocon, Mitt finally endorsed Juan today, I wonder if the other ticket didn't scare the bejeezes out of him as well.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby R John » 02/14/08, 8:38 pm

Paleocon Wrote: I don't know exactly what killed Romney's campaign.

Me thinks that there is Mucho unspoken Prejudice against LDS. Shame on the GOP.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby paleocon » 02/14/08, 8:59 pm

R John wrote:
Me thinks that there is Mucho unspoken Prejudice against LDS. Shame on the GOP.



Well, I for one, as an evangelical Christian who is seminary trained understand the differences between LDS and orthodox Christianity.  Look at it and the history of Smith and the LDS church and study their beliefs and you will concur that there is much kookiness in LDS theology.  

Now that doesn't make them bad people.  But, it does make them seem "kooky" because they believe things that can be empirically disproved.  Like the existence of massive ancient Semitic civilizations on North America.  They believe it to be true but we know it never existed.  But, "kooky" is not good unless you are a democrat like Kucinich, et al.  

But, in spite of my understanding LDS and thinking it is kooky, I was a relatively vocal supporter of Romney over the more "kooky/liberal" evangelical candidate.  So, I am NOT sure prejudice explains all of it.
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby Antisoros » 02/14/08, 10:27 pm

R John wrote:Paleocon Wrote: I don't know exactly what killed Romney's campaign.

Me thinks that there is Mucho unspoken Prejudice against LDS. Shame on the GOP.


Yo, don't just blame the evangelical Protestants for the anti-Mormon factor here. I'm Roman Catholic, and I'll just show an excerpt from an email I got warning me to stay away from Mitt Romney:

Mormon church has been in the news a lot recently. The head of the church, styled its “prophet,” recently died. Many dignitaries attended his funeral, including a major political candidate whose Mormonism has been discussed a lot these last few months.

        Mormon evangelists have been taking advantage of their church being in the headlines. They have been doing their best to invite Americans to take a closer look at their religion.

        Many people have been doing just that—especially Catholics. In fact, in recent years the majority of converts to Mormonism have been Catholics.

        It makes sense, when you think about it.

        Catholics are targeted by Mormons because many Catholics can be swayed easily by Mormon arguments. That’s because many Catholics don’t know their own faith.
     
        In a way, you can’t blame the Mormons. Targeting Catholics has worked for them, so why shouldn’t they keep their evangelizing focus on Catholics?


So I guess their argument is that Mitt Romney would have tried to convert us weaker Catholics if he'd been elected President. I was surprised by this, I think it's fine not to vote for someone because of religious reasons, but I'll usually go out of my way NOT to vote for another Catholic....Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry all spring to mind,
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Re: Romney Speech at CPAC was Reaganesque

Postby paleocon » 02/15/08, 12:24 am

There was a period when the largest number of Mormon converts were Southern Baptists.  I remember seeing a statistic that 500 Southern Baptists a month were converting to LDS.  That was the equivalent of one averaged sized Southern Baptist church each month changing teams.  

Frankly, many of most faiths don't know their own faiths.  I have driven several young LDS missionaries to distraction more than once when they came to my door.   Most have no idea what the church officially teaches.  But they are passionate.  Feelings sell.  Thinking scares people off and Christianity requires you to think.  

Ask any protestant about 4 or 5 point Calvinism and they will scratch their heads.  Ask them to explain grace, justification or sanctification and you'll get blank stares.  The price if ignorance is high.
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