mr_spock wrote:
Calypso and Tom Rice-I was merely calling a spade a spade. Racist is a favorite buzzword of this site and if you can't take it, don't dish it out. Are you pretending "Then again, if census is right, by 2042, caucasians of european ancestry won't be in the majority anymore. This country won't be fit for our kids." this isn't a racist statement? Once again I was merely calling a spade a spade.

Mr_spock.."racist" is not a favorite buzzword on this site.  Obama made himself the "black" candidate and it is Obama himself who is labeling Republicans and John McCain racists without any individual actually exhibiting bigoted words against him because of his race.  Do we discuss this?  You bet we do, but that does not make "racist" a buzzword on the Rush Limbaugh Forum.  Regarding Calypso, perhaps you jumped to conclusions thru your own brand of racism to call Calypso a racist for her comment.  Perhaps you should have asked her what she meant before you determined her to be a racist.  

I will be 94 in 2042 and not likely to be breathing.  However, I'd like to stick around to see the NAAWP, White History Month, the United Caucasian College Fund, Affirmative Action for Whites, especially White Males, and Diversity Training that would actually include Whites; but to be perfectly honest, I truly doubt whites will be treated with anything but disdain since racism is far more prevalent in people of color than it is in whites.   90+% of blacks will be voting for Barack Obama because he is black versus considering his socialist ideology and lack of experience.  It is too bad that blacks think more of their racism than they do of freedom.  La Raza isn't much different but there doesn't appear to be the overwhelming white hatred from hispanics as the blacks exhibit.  I think Calypso is correct with her statement and that this country for our children and grandchildren will not resemble the Shining City on the Hill.  Even if Barry doesn't get elected in November, Socialism is on the march here and too many people of every color are holding their hands out for the gifts the Democrats keep promising.  The percentage of people of color versus the percentage of whites who are using entitlement programs is larger because the Democrats keep them needy to keep them as a voter block.  Detroit is a great example. Just exactly what will happen when the majority in 2042 is on entitlement programs and the entire country is like Detroit?  The US will cease to be alot of things including a super power.  Another thought..just what will happen when the hispanics out number the blacks and what year will that occur?  This country indeed will not be fit for anyone's kids when in 2042 this country has joined Gyorgy Soros' Global Open Communist Society.

"Why defend Calypsoand not me when I'm called "bigot" and "reverse racist"? Because Idared pick on someone you like and you don't agree with my posts.
Just another tactic to skirt the issue and, once again, resort to name-calling because that's all you've got."

You don't like it much, do you?

That's exactly what happens to conservatives (or anybody) who dares to criticize blacks for any reason.

When a reporter was flying over the beating of Reginald Denney, he referred to the vicious thugs as 'animals". He was immediately called a racist. But later, black L.A. congresswoman Maxine Waters referred to the black gangsters who led the riots as laudable "soldiers" in some imagined revolution. Things have only gotten more twisted in this country since.

You said the line "not just cry about whitey holding them down". If you worked for a university, almost any media, any government, if you had any public job you'd be fired for saying that.

Do you know that when R Kelly was charged with having sex with a minor, the NAACP rushed to give him an "Image" award? Same for Jacko. Almost the same for Michael Vick.


"I can only imagine the outcry if the statement said that "european/caucasions made the country not fit for my kids"

Blacks openly say that all the time. There is no outcry at all.

Nowhere do I call Calypso a racist.I pointed out that she made a racist statement. I can only imagine the outcry if the statement said that "european/caucasions made the country not fit for my kids". Is that what you'd call "reverse racism"?


I stand corrected.  You did not call her a racist.  You said her comment was a racist comment.  So, you are saying she's not a racist but she made a racist comment?  It's semantics, Mr_spock.  My only point that I really wanted to make was that you should have asked her to expand on what she meant prior to making your own assumption about the comment.



I've seen many posts here calling Obama a racist. It does seem to be a buzzword, just like "socialist". What the heck is a "reverse racist"? A racist is a racist regardless of their race or the race they hate.

Obama is a racist.  Don't forget, he easily threw his white grandmother under the bus, his book is full of anti-white comments, he conveniently forgets the white blood that runs thru his veins and the first thing out of his mouth is a comment on being attacked thru racism for anything said about him.  We aren't supposed to talk about his race yet he brings it up in nearly every speech.  It is not a buzzword here, it is more often a discussion regarding exactly what Obama says, believes and his accusations designed to get blacks to think he is being attacked because he is black.  No one here says Obama should not be President because he is black.  No one.

You will find "socialist" here because the socialists and marxists have taken over the Democrat Party.  You will find "socialist" here because that is who Obama is.  You will find it here because we do not want our country to become the United Socialist States of America.

Blacks have made the word racist to depict bigoted whites.  When people talk about reverse racism, they are referring to the racism in blacks.  It is a misnomer.  You're right, racism is racism, no matter who believes it.

Mum-Why defend Calypso and not me when I'm called "bigot" and "reverse racist"? Because I dared pick on someone you like and you don't agree with my posts.
Just another tactic to skirt the issue and, once again, resort to name-calling because that's all you've got.

Mr_spock, I was not defending Calypso as much as I was pointing out that you made an assumption without asking for clarification before throwing up the racist comment.  In truth, I have enjoyed reading what you write for the most part and you are still here and haven't left the building as other liberals have because you normally try to debate the issue without resorting to namecalling.  

So, everyone..stop calling people racists, bigots and reverse racists and get back to debating the issue.  In fact, the discussion has gotten completely off topic.  The subject of this thread is:  Reality Sets In:  I'm Voting McCain.
Let's get back on topic.  

Mr_Spock said,
“I've seen many posts here calling Obama a racist. It does seem to be a buzzword, just like "socialist". What the heck is a "reverse racist"? A racist is a racist regardless of their race or the race they hate.”

Actually I have seen very few posts discussing race at all.  I am the one who brings it up the most. I bring it up because the Democratic National Committee and the Obama campaign as well as Obama himself use the issue of race as a way to raise money, attack anyone who questions them about policy and excuse issues of character and judgement.
Is Obama himself personally a racist? I have no idea. Does true racism exist in this country? Yes it does but not like some would like you to think.  The DNC does everything they can to promote racism for the soul purpose of using people against people to further their control over everyone.
The fact that someone dare point out racism may be the motive for doing or saying something or racism is being used for a purpose or to bring attention to one group of people is where the reverse racism comes in. You [meaning whomever] must be a racist yourself or you would not notice or even bring the subject up. You quote statistics and you are using reverse racism. This has become the new tactic over the last 2 election cycles.
The Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton tactics are the old ways and are not getting the desired results that they once did. It a complicated tactic. It was devised that way on purpose.  The DNC found that just calling someone a racist was causing the DNC a problem so they came up with a new label.
Because one dares bring up race, if they are referring to someone or something involving someone other than their own personal colour, then they are called a reverse racist.

The use of socialism is quite simple.  The DNC platform with few exceptions is like reading a manifesto of Karl Marx.  The actions, the words and the tactics used by the DNC and a lot [NOT ALL OF THEM] of Democrats in politics is not any different than Socialism.  Take a look at the writings of Karl Marx. Read the writings of Saul Allinsky. Hugo Chavez is live in-colour real time Socialism. Maxine Walters on the floor of the Senate with her now famous words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ is a prime example of what is meant by the DNC is promoting socialism.

Again I am probably one of the ones who is the most vocal about this point. I also point out Communism as well.  It is alive and well in this country and there are active groups doing whatever they can to steer this country into communism.
Russia was not talked about much when you were in school. You are just a few years younger than me. The cold war was going on and it was a subject that was handled with kid gloves. Unless you did reading on your own above what the schools were teaching you did not lean a lot about communism or socialism.  The focus in school was on Hitler and the holocaust. The news was focused on Viet Nam. History of WWII and the Viet Nam war is only half of it. You have to start about 30 years before WW I to get a handle on it.

John McCain knowns first hand about Viet Nam.  His military background and time in the Congress and the Senate gives him a unique view of the world in how Socialism, Communism, Democracy and bad ass dictators relates to real life. Obama knows how rallies protests relate to how much money you can get donated to a campaign.

This video's main character, the woman who bought a home and lost it because it adjusted and she could no longer afford the payments..is she scheduled to be one of those real people who are going to speak at the DNC Convention?  

Boo hoo.  She took out a loan she couldn't afford to pay when the balloon hit.  Where is her responsiblity for the loss of her home?  Lenders increase interest rates when people do not pay their bills.  She said her interest rate was 16%.  Mortgage interest rates have been very low in past years and 16% is more in tune with Jimmy Carter.  She could not walk in and get a mortgage for 16%.   Lenders would never give her one that high.  It was 16% because she wasn't paying, not because of John McCain.  Not because of Republicans.

BJ's administration is responsible for legislation requiring lenders to make loans to unqualified people.  Sooner or later, the balloon would burst and so now it's the Republicans or John McCain's fault?  I don't think so.  

You are not on a Republican or a John McCain site here.  You are on a conservative site.  Conservatives believe in personal responsibility.  The woman was responsible for her own problems and she's nothing but a Democrat cry-baby.

As far as John McCain goes, he married a rich woman.  He does not own most of those houses (and there are 7 not 10).  She does.  He does not own that jet, she does and considering the injuries he got in Vietnam, perhaps he needs special shoes?  Why don't you go ask Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Gyorgy Soros and the rest of the super rich Democrats how much they pay for their shoes.  Kennedy probably has a closet full of $500 shoes. How much do you think Obama pays for his shoes?  $60 at Payless?  Not likely when his wife talked about spending her $600 giveaway check on jewelry.  

His comment about $5M being wealthy was a joke.  He even joked about how Obama and the Democrats would use that against him.  

Really, if you think Obama is just one of the boys and that he's going to help anyone but Obama and Gyorgy Soros, you are sorely mistaken.  If you think he's going to not cause you to pay higher taxes, you are hugely mistaken. If you think he's going to help the economy, you are dellusional.  His entitlement programs alone will kill our economy.  If you think he'll do anything for the energy problems, you are again, misguided.  He will not allow new drilling, new refineries or nuclear.  Russia, Venezuella and the Middle East will be our new lords and masters.  If you believe Obama has enough experience and judgement to face the Islamofacist threat, you are deadly wrong.  It will be Kumbaya all the way and the war will come here.  He plans to gut the military, the defense budget and all R&D programs.  We'll be prime pickins.  If you don't want to see babies dying just prior to their first breath, vote for Obama.  It's the first bill he's planning to sign when he's President.  

If you love this country and you vote for Obama, you are voting for the end of this free country and the creation of the new United Socialist States of America.  If that's what you want, then go for it honey.

I guess he's no good without his teleprompter. And remember, those could be very special prescription tortured war hero shoes! Also remember that he chose to stay a POW. Those kindly Vietnamese were going to let him go home if he wanted, and also promised him the deed to the Brooklyn Bridge.

VoicaReesun wrote:Another reason to not vote McCain.  He's freaking senile.  He sound's like a blithering idiot in this video - same as GW and we should have learned from 8 years of that mush-mouthed meathead.  You don't want this old man with his finger on the button.


p.s. - a short note for soldiersmum - you are witnessing the decline of America now, after 8 years of pure republican leadership.  Time to do something different and I'll take a young inspiring senator over a guy who has participated in the slide for decades any day.

BTW - are these nice shoes or what?  $520!!!  Must be nice having a rich wife spoil you.  Rember how we gave Kerry crap for being married to the Heinz Heiress?  These are much nicer than what our boys have been wearing over in the dessert huh?

You Democrats are all alike.  You holler all night and day about the isms.  No racism.  No sexism.  No gayism. blah blah blah.  Yet, here you are showing your prejudices against McCain's age.  Well that is called AGEISM and you are guilty.  

Your YouTube is lame.  Try this one for someone who must be experiencing the "I Can't Talk Without My Teleprompter Symdrome"  WMP     If McCain is so senile, how's come he did so much better with Rev Warren's little get together than Obama did?  I'm a senior.  I guess I'm senile too.  What are you 12?

McCain has a rich wife..duh..hang him from the rafters. He wears good shoes...duh.  Comparing his shoes to our soldiers boots is typical liberal.  Actually, our soldiers' boots are really nice and if you went out to buy them, they'd probably cost a couple hundred.  I should know they are good.  My son's been to Iraq twice.  He loves his boots.

McCain gave 27% of his income to charity.  Your boy candidate gave less than 1% from 2000 to 2005.  In 2006 he gave 5.  In 2007 he gave 6.  Now for a person who cares so much about the downtrodden and want all of us to share everything we have with everyone who doesn't have, he sure doesn't put his money where his mouth is.  You'd think his buddy Gyorgy would give him a bucket of money to give to charity so he could show how benevolent he really is.

Which one of the liberal trolls who was banned already are you?  I suggest you stop posting your prejudice against geezers and your prejudice against wealth and start posting about issues.

mr_spock wrote:I guess he's no good without his teleprompter. And remember, those could be very special prescription tortured war hero shoes! Also remember that he chose to stay a POW. Those kindly Vietnamese were going to let him go home if he wanted, and also promised him the deed to the Brooklyn Bridge.

Mr_spock, I'm disappointed in you.  You've claimed to be the one liberal here who sticks to the issues.  Really.  Please knock this kind of stuff off.  

Both of you are perfectly within your right to vote for Obama, but it would be appreciated if you would both post on issues.  If all you've got is that he's old and he wears high-priced shoes, then your argument is very lame.  Keep in mind that while some of us here are voting for McCain, none of us like it and we could give you more points against McCain than your pitiful attempts at making him a senile,  expensive-shoe-wearing idiot.  Obama would be disastrous for freedom so those of us voting for McCain are voting for our country, freedom and liberty.  I will put two new threads on this topic:  Why People Shouldn't Vote for McCain and Why People Shouldn't Vote for Obama.  Why don't you try to come up with some real issues to put on the McCain one.  Stop the personal attacks on the man and stick with the issues.  

Hey VoicaReesun - megadittoes to you.

oh yeah.  YOU're Independent alright!