Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby mr_spock on 08/20/08, 1:14 pm

Calypso Jones writes "Then again, if census is right, by 2042, caucasians of european ancestry won't be in the majority anymore. This country won't be fit for our kids."
That easily takes the cake for the "Most Racist Thing I've Seen" award.
On the abortion issue.
The most abortions happen among poorer people for various reasons. Alot of them can't afford to feed the babies they have, let alone the ones they don't want. The adament "Pro-Lifers" would force them to have those babies anyway. Then deny them the "Socialist" services to help them be taken care of, from pre-natal care to post-natal care to any 'Socialist" medical program that would help. So you demand that the baby be born, yet care less for the quality of life of that person. Then whine about the increased load on the welfare system.
I'm not for third term abortions. I think that's a decision that should be made as soon as a pregnancy is known. It's important that any woman have a choice. One that, as a man, I'm glad I'll never have to make, nor will I pretend that I know what's best for any woman.
Just so you know, I'm also all for pressuring them (welfare recipients) to get jobs. I don't believe in handouts to deadbeats.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/20/08, 1:23 pm

You can call it racist if you want but the truthh of the matter is that this country has it's roots in european history and heritage.   Look what's happened to France, england, Netherlands...i'm  not so inclined to see that happen here.   These people coming into our country now have no interest in assimilating.   That's not good.   You can let your delicate sensibilities get the best of you if you want but deep down, you feel the same way whether you want to admit it or not.  

Additionally, what do you care about a woman's right to abort?   You're a man.   You're not exactly in the position of doing any of the suffering for it.  Indeed, men think it is to their advantage.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby TomRice on 08/20/08, 2:49 pm

mr_spock wrote:That easily takes the cake for the "Most Racist Thing I've Seen" award.

that brainless comment is something only a knee-jerk reverse-bigot would say.

"it's racism! it's racism! it's racism!" ad nauseum from mindless types who make ALL their judgments according to race, just in reverse.

did you cheer when OJ went free? how about when Jacko and Jayson Williams and the Crown Heights Killer and the rest went free? R Kelly?

But no, as a true bigot, you can't be reasoned with.

Hey, you can always go and live in Zimbabwe, I hear things are just wonderful since they drove the white farmers off their land... plenty of food and prosperity for everyone.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/20/08, 4:16 pm

If my remarks are the most racist thing he's seen then racism is not the problem in this country that leftist try to make it out to be.     The Racism is in the eye of the beholder, used in an attempt to embarrass and to shut down any that do not agree with leftist policy.  

I was listening to Hannity interviewing Romney as a potential VP for McCain.   I think that perhaps he would be good if this media was  not poised to take out any McCain vice presidential choice.    Obviously Huckabee is still fighting for the spot.  He is unexciting.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby SoldiersMum on 08/20/08, 4:43 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:If my remarks are the most racist thing he's seen then racism is not the problem in this country that leftist try to make it out to be.     The Racism is in the eye of the beholder, used in an attempt to embarrass and to shut down any that do not agree with leftist policy.  

I was listening to Hannity interviewing Romney as a potential VP for McCain.   I think that perhaps he would be good if this media was  not poised to take out any McCain vice presidential choice.    Obviously Huckabee is still fighting for the spot.  He is unexciting.


abd Huck is not a conservative

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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby TomRice on 08/20/08, 5:11 pm

SoldiersMum wrote:abd Huck is not a conservative

if McCain wanted to really play tough, he'd nominate a woman

ironically, Hillary would be compelled to say nice things about that woman - because she needs McCain to win now so she can try to beat him in 2012
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/20/08, 5:35 pm

If Hillary is the democrat nominee then she won't have to say anything about the GOP selection of a female on the ticket except talk about her inexperience.     What's to keep Hillary from taking the convention right out from under Obama.   I wouldn't bet against her.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby watcher on 08/20/08, 6:25 pm

Someone’s race is not the problem in this country. It is their refusal to become American that is the problem.  Now the CDNC, instead of promoting new immigrants to ‘melt’ into the fabric of the country they promote staying separate, hence using race to cause jealously and hatred. The country has always been a ‘melting pot’ of many types of people from all corners of the world. There has always been some head bumping along the way but in the past this was looked down upon as not helpful to the immigrant or the country.  Not today. In the last 30 years the left has done what ever they can to promote non-equality with immigrants.  They have purposely highlighted the differences between people. The have caused dislike and distrust by taking away from those all ready here and give to the new immigrant. Then tell each, the old and the new not to like each other, not to trust each other.  In the past, the new immigrant has had to learn the language and the ways of being an American.  The immigrant was never kept from being allowed to maintain their own ethnicity but were encouraged to share that with the rest of us.  Again not today. Now the government demands it instead of allowing the ones who have been here for a while to discover all of the interesting traditions, foods and history of the new immigrant.  The left has and is the true reason for racism.  Racism is now used as means to expand the control of CDNC.

Racism is used by the left as a tool to quell legitimate criticism of actions, character, plans and justice.

This has been created to rally together minorities against ‘white controlled America’ and to garner votes for the CDNC. It is an organizing tool and nothing else. They have used the Blacks of this country as their primary force to promote racism.  It will not be much longer and they will activiely start using hispanics.

We have to stop being so sensitive to the constant call of racism. Go onto any blog site that is run by the left and racism is thrown in your face as soon as anyone does not agree with you. If a lefty comes onto a moderate or right leaning blog the first thing they do is cry foul and call you uncaring about poor people or in bed with big oil which is just another way of staying stingy, cheap and selfish, uncaring; a racist. A warmonger is another undercover racist cry. Because uneducated poor have to join the war machine because they have no hope of a future that is controlled by white America.
Everything gets wrapped into the suffocating blanket of racism. The left uses race to bend domestic spending policies and drive foreign charity policy uses the race cry.

The policy of the CDNC has increased racism in this country to a level that has not been since pre Martin Luther King. Mark my words, once we get closer to November you will hear in hushed whispers at first, then louder if the polls don’t show good numbers, that if Obama doesn’t win there will fresh blood in the streets. This will be the left’s last-ditch effort to insure an Obama win.
Do not allow this planned intimidation tactic to work any longer. Call it out; expose it for what it truly is. When it is used to suppress criticism speak louder. When it is used to excuse character expose it. When it is used to manipulate plans make it known. When it is used to block justice do not allow it.

Now is the time to take a stand on this issue. It has to be stopped before it destroys this country. Do not allow the CDNC to pit people against each other to tear down our strength and to weaken our ability to stand united against the common enemy. Do not allow this false cry of racism to benefit this parties plans to control this country.


Race is a tool and Obama uses it to his full advantage. Obama via the rules of Saul Alinsky is being used to drive a wedge into this country and cause a crack that will only be widened if he wins. This crack will allow a slow and deadly disease to get in and spread.

At least McCain has recognized it and called him out on it.  The one thing that I think could happen with McCain’s ‘habit’ of reaching across the isle the CDNC will not be able to use race as effectively as they have been.  He is for English as this countries language and he is for against affirmative action. He believes in true non-discrimination policies.  Read his plan on immigration and border security. Everyone has a vested interest in this.  Immigration has the ability to make or break this country.  It goes well beyond ‘race baiting’ but if the left is not allow to constantly fan the fires this immigration plan could be the start on a way to solving not just immigration but racism.
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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby mr_spock on 08/20/08, 10:24 pm


Calypso writes "You can let your delicate sensibilities get the best of you if you want but deep down, you feel the same way whether you want to admit it or not."
Don't assume how I feel.
Additionally, "What do you care about a woman's right to abort? You're a man. You're not exactly in the position of doing any of the suffering for it. Indeed, men think it is to their advantage."
I pretty clearly stated "I'm not for third term abortions. I think that's a decision that should be made as soon as a pregnancy is known. It's important that any woman have a choice. One that, as a man, I'm glad I'll never have to make, nor will I pretend that I know what's best for any woman." What part about that don't you get? Do you speek for all men? There are many prospective fathers who would beg to differ.

Calypso and Tom Rice-I was merely calling a spade a spade. Racist is a favorite buzzword of this site and if you can't take it, don't dish it out. Are you pretending "Then again, if census is right, by 2042, caucasians of european ancestry won't be in the majority anymore. This country won't be fit for our kids." this isn't a racist statement? Once again I was merely calling a spade a spade.

To Tom Rice-I think OJ should have his throat cut like Nicole, so please don't put words in my mouth. It seems all you have is personal attack as a debate strategy.
It seems you see this election as the black and hispanic racists vs. the white european racists, of which I'm neither. How about the Native American people? I'm sure they may beg to differ on the "this country has it's roots in european history and heritage." statement by Calypso, but they were effectively silenced by the European invasion long ago, so they don't count, right?

TomRice-You're entire response to me and personal attack are as knee-jerk as it gets.

Watcher-"Someone’s race is not the problem in this country. It is their refusal to become American that is the problem." is one thing I agree with 100%. If people would stop referring to themselves as "african american", "christian american", "jewish american", "asian american" ad nauseum and start just calling themselves "Americans", that would go a long way toward quelling all those accusations of racism that are tossed around all too freely. And all people who come to this country need to be made to speak English! I'd like to see that legislated but believe neither party has the guts to introduce it.

Watcher-"Mark my words, once we get closer to November you will hear in hushed whispers at first, then louder if the polls don’t show good numbers, that if Obama doesn’t win there will fresh blood in the streets." That's quite an assumption. I guess it'll be like the Rodney King riots? That's fearmongering at its best.

I'm a 47yr. old white male who loves this country and everything it stands for. I try very hard to keep insults and personal attacks out of my posts and it would be nice to be shown the same courtesy.

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Re: Reality Sets In: I'm Voting McCain

Postby TomRice on 08/21/08, 12:38 am

mr_spock wrote:
Calypso and Tom Rice-I was merely calling a spade a spade. Racist is a favorite buzzword of this site and if you can't take it, don't dish it out. Are you pretending "Then again, if census is right, by 2042, caucasians of european ancestry won't be in the majority anymore. This country won't be fit for our kids." this isn't a racist statement? Once again I was merely calling a spade a spade.

almost everything you say is dripping with politically-correct reverse racism. Addressing every point of yours would take an hour. So let's just start with that one above.

You make the politically-correct assumption (which is a lie) that whenever any white criticizes any non-white, then the white is automatically a "racist" and the non-white is an innocent victim. You never even took one second to address the point that she made - you just indulged in the knee jerk behavior of accusing "racism".

What she said has a lot of factual basis. E.g., blacks commit far more violent crime than other races per capita. Blacks have 70% illegitimate birth rate. Higher drug use, lower literacy. When a rare black kid studies hard, speaks well and stays out of trouble, the other blacks mercilessly torture him and say he's "acting white".  Yet if anybody criticizes that, then knee-jerk people like you start saying "racism". It's crap.

Yet you make the assumption that your reverse-racism is somehow the "correct" way that everybody should think.

Meanwhile, even Bill Cosby said that black people need to stop blaming everything on "racism" and look at their own behavior. If any white person in a public position has said that, they'd have been labelled as a supposed "racist" and been destroyed... by reverse bigots like you.

Try going to live in a black neighborhood and you'll find out who the real racists are.
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