REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

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Postby Ronnie Raygun on 05/02/08, 1:22 pm

I'm a troll because I dare to disagree and question someones logic.?
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby paleocon on 05/02/08, 2:27 pm

Ronnie Raygun wrote:I'm a troll because I dare to disagree and question someones logic.?


Well, I don't know if you are a troll or not but you have a lot of nerve to bounce in and start insulting people right off the bat.  You might want to brush up on "personal etiquette" or people will jump down your throat for being a jerk.  Otherwise, varied opinions are welcome here.
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby Layla 27 on 05/02/08, 2:39 pm

Im not going to waste anymore time beyond this post discussing wether or not Raygun is a Troll:

1. He is named ronnie raygun. On a RUSH LIMBAUGH forum, that should be a red flag that he is interested in brushing up drama and FLAMES.

2. He has 9 POSTS. 9 POSTS. He has already Personally attacked a number of users.

3. Almost all of those posts are off topic, or trolling.

He is obvisly not interested in any sort of debating, he is not a fan of Rush, so he has no reason to be here other than trolling.

He is a guy with nothing better to do. He saw this site on a search engine, and decided to have some fun.

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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby Ronnie Raygun on 05/02/08, 3:03 pm

Crystal in my underams???
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby Ronnie Raygun on 05/02/08, 3:11 pm

paleocon wrote:
Ronnie Raygun wrote:I'm a troll because I dare to disagree and question someones logic.?


Well, I don't know if you are a troll or not but you have a lot of nerve to bounce in and start insulting people right off the bat.  You might want to brush up on "personal etiquette" or people will jump down your throat for being a jerk.  Otherwise, varied opinions are welcome here.


I didn't mean to insult anyone. I apologize for the zombie remark, and the get a life jab (oh I'm so clever aren't I). Reading some of your other posts you seem like an intelligent person. I just have trouble reconciling that with the whole operation chaos idea. Especially if you don't support any of the candidates. Which makes me wonder, Are you just following Rush's orders?
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby paleocon on 05/02/08, 4:17 pm

Ronnie Raygun wrote:
I didn't mean to insult anyone. I apologize for the zombie remark, and the get a life jab (oh I'm so clever aren't I). Reading some of your other posts you seem like an intelligent person. I just have trouble reconciling that with the whole operation chaos idea. Especially if you don't support any of the candidates. Which makes me wonder, Are you just following Rush's orders?


Okay, apology accepted.  And in the future we will expect a much higher quality insult than "zombie" and "get a life."  Those kinds of comments are sooo pedestrian.

What do you not understand about Operation Chaos?  The ENTIRE purpose behind Operation Chaos is the make the Dems fight it out between the two of them until the convention.  It is that simple.  The only way one of them can secure the nomination is if the other pulls out of the race.  You do understand the basic arithmetic of the Democrat Primaries, right?  It has nothing to do with who wins or not but simply keeping them both fighting each other!  

As I pointed out in my initial response I did NOT participate in Operation Chaos in my home state because McCain had not secured the nomination and I voted AGAINST him by voting for another GOP candidate.  I am not "simply following orders" but I simply do understand the rationale behind the operation.  The longer the fight continues the more we learn about both candidates.  Once either of them secure the nomination the MSM will begin carrying water for which ever communist is nominated.  

Are you clear on that Operation Chaos thing or should I continue to explain?
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby Ronnie Raygun on 05/04/08, 8:55 pm

paleocon, thank you for the in-depth yet concise explaination. No really, I get it, I just don't think it's really going to make much difference. I think the poeple supporting either of the candidates will still vote for the one who wins rather than McCain. It just seems to further inflame the division in this country right now. I'd just really like to see more people realize that the R and the D aren't that much different. This kind of thing just serves to distract people from the issues. It makes it into a sporting event where people just root for their team no matter what. I'd like to see all politicians wear jackets like Nascar drivers with patches of their "sponsors".
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby paleocon on 05/04/08, 9:01 pm

Ronnie Raygun wrote:paleocon, thank you for the in-depth yet concise explaination. No really, I get it, I just don't think it's really going to make much difference. I think the poeple supporting either of the candidates will still vote for the one who wins rather than McCain. It just seems to further inflame the division in this country right now. I'd just really like to see more people realize that the R and the D aren't that much different. This kind of thing just serves to distract people from the issues. It makes it into a sporting event where people just root for their team no matter what. I'd like to see all politicians wear jackets like Nascar drivers with patches of their "sponsors".


Well, from Rush's point of view prolonging the fight will drain the coffers of the eventual nominee.  And that will be important for McCain because either Dem is raising 2 or 3 times the money that McCain is raising.  If they spend it now against each other they can't spend it against McCain.  

It is less than clear if Obama supporters will vote for Clinton or vice versa.  The polls, if they can be trusted, indicate that this race is splitting the Dems.  This is another reason Rush is pusing Operation Chaos.

In fact, this is not distracting people from issues.  It is demonstrating that Obama is a characterless liar who is hiding everything that he can.  And that is an issue and it is a big issue.  The man sat under the racist tutoring of a monster for 20 years.  The man calls an unrepentant terrorist a friend.  None of these things would have come to light if the primaries ended in March.  

I cannot argue that R and D labels mean very little.  All three are hardly good for America and that is why I won't be voting for McCain.  But, Americans need to know their choices and Op Chaos is giving them that chance.  What they do with that information is up to them but they, we, deserve full disclosure and we weren't getting it.
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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby SoldiersMum on 05/04/08, 9:27 pm

[quote="Ronnie Raygun"]I'd like to see all politicians wear jackets like Nascar drivers with patches of their sponsors".[/quote]


That's something I can agree upon but none of them, including McCain, would be able to stand up because of the weight of their jackets covered over and over with patches..

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Re: REPUBLICANS must vote for OBAMA tommorow in PA.

Postby PaulHart on 05/06/08, 12:05 pm

Operation Chaos will blow up in Rush's face.
A very popular and powerful Hillary Clinton will be the Dems' nominee.
She's already CRUSHING McCain in crucial swing states like Ohio, Florida and Michigan.
McCain is beating Obama in those states.
Obama was our perfect chance to have a landslide  victory against the Dems' in November.
Republicans and Conservatives would've made big gains in both houses of congress.
But Rush stole that opportunity from us.
He'll have to apologize to his audience and to the nation.
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