People calling in to yesterday's program voiced their support for a third party, and Rush was kind enough to disillusion them of the whole notion. No, there are too many people invested in McCain to have enough funds to support a real conservative run as a third party candidate.

However, there are some pretty ideal conditions for something else altogether: a liberal masquerading as a republican winning the presidency. This is thanks to a ultra left-wing, completely liberal candidate with no experience who even the most confused American who cares about this country will reject. When else could a candidate like McCain emerge and actually win? True, the mass-media and it's brain-flogging chant for Obama may finally get to a lot of people, not to mention those who care more about having a black president than what that person can and will do if in office, but the majority of Americans REJECT liberalism, especially at it's basest form.

Obama is the type of opponent that will drive enough republicans and moderates to the polls just to vote against him, no matter how distasteful McCain is. Yeah, we'll complain for weeks on end here how messed up McCain is, even for a RINO, but in the end I'm sure we'll be voting for him anyway.

All that's really left to us is to educate people. Friends, co-workers, strangers, whomever will listen. It's like Rush said the other day- the person you're talking to/debating with won't end up agreeing with you, but you can be darn sure that other people hear you, and it's the quiet ones (the thinking ones with no point to defend) that are more likely to be convinced. If you want starting points or supporting material, Rush's show is a great place to start. Besides conservative think thank publications, more can be found in places like NRO:
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and IBD:
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Sorry about that tangent of a last paragraph there. So, how do you think the candidate of Obama effects McCain's possibility of success? Do you believe Rush's Texan stand-in when he said that both Obama and Hillary are unelectable? And one more: do we have any historical examples of someone as liberal as Obama winning a Presidential election?

Q #1 RINOs excel at losing elections. And, I would not call a McCain victory success. McCain tells us everyday that he will reach across the aisle. When RINOs reach across the aisle, liberalism flourishes.

When you hear the word bipartisan grab your wallet. - Rush Limbaugh

Q #2 I must've missed this segment. No idea what Texan stand in means.

Q #3 FDR the father of modern Democrat socialism. LBJ the architect of the Great Society. Jimmy Carter who thought he could speak softly and throw away the big stick. Bill Clinton who, in '92, ran on a campaign of national health care, gay rights and better living through government mixed with populism. (Obama is running the same campaign 16 years later.)

The problem with electability is that all three candidates are terribly unelectable.  It is not that we have a poor candidate running against a great candidate.  We have three horrible choices.  It is not who is electable but rather who is least unelectable.   Remember that Hillary's NEGATIVES are nearly 50% but Barack just barely beat her!  Talk about two weak candidates!  But is McCain really any better?  A recent Pew Research Poll indicated McCain's unfavorables were at 45% of all registered voters!  

This race may very well be decided in the final few weeks of the campaign by which ever candidate makes the fewest gaffes and blunders.  

McCain is less unintelligible than Bush.  But McCain is less inspiring than Bush.  As Novak pointed out today, McCain inspires no enthusiasm among Republicans.  In fact he inspires animosity!  

Obama can be eloquent when he speaks of grand, sweeping ideas from a teleprompter.  But, when he is on his own he displays his vapid yet simultaneously elitist and arrogant persona.  

For the first time in a long time, the VP slot may actually make a difference on both tickets.  And the money could be heavily lopsided against the GOP in a manner not seen before.  McCain is raising paltry sums compared to Obama.  If the Obama camp spends wisely and prevents Barack from going off-script they could bury McCain just by outspending him 4 or 5 to 1.  

But, I don't know that any of it helps a 3rd party candidate this year.  First, the two bigger 3rd parties, Constitution Party and Libertarians, have either an unknown of flawed candidate.  Name the Constitution Party candidate?  You can name the Libertarian but frankly, he is a very bizarre person who once shot off a pistol during a reception held in his honor.  

The two big 3rd parties could capture a big percentage of the national popular vote this year but it will be spread throughout the 50 states.  The probability of a 3rd party winning a state is almost non-existent.  The probability of either one tilting a state against McCain is high!

Im not voting for Bob Barr, if thats what you are implying conservatives should do.

Layla 27 wrote:Im not voting for Bob Barr, if thats what you are implying conservatives should do.

I can see how you might have divined that I was implying conservatives should vote for Bob Barr when I explicitly stated:

But, I don't know that any of it helps a 3rd party candidate this year. First, the two bigger 3rd parties, Constitution Party and Libertarians, have either an unknown of flawed candidate. Name the Constitution Party candidate? You can name the Libertarian but frankly, he is a very bizarre person who once shot off a pistol during a reception held in his honor.

In your universe as a self-professed illegitimate journalist that must be high praise.  In the real world it means that Bob Barr is a bizarre person who once shot off a pistol at a reception.  But, I can see how you have trouble seeing the difference.

Sefl professed ILLIGITIMATE JOURNALIST? because I said i have a Conservative bias? Why do you deny that the media has a liberal bias? and given that only 8% of journalists are Conservative, why do you deny that liberals need to be countered? Why do you hate the Facts so much? why do you continue to take my words out of context? I really dont see why this bizzare grudge over the Hillary Clinton Rermarks is necessary.

Given your total lack of concern for history or facts in recent posts, I would not be suprised to see you pushing a candidate who randomly fired a pistol during a reception.

Layla 27 wrote:Sefl professed ILLIGITIMATE JOURNALIST? because I said i have a Conservative bias? Why do you deny that the media has a liberal bias? and given that only 8% of journalists are Conservative, why do you deny that liberals need to be countered? Why do you hate the Facts so much? why do you continue to take my words out of context? I really dont see why this bizzare grudge over the Hillary Clinton Rermarks is necessary.

Given your total lack of concern for history or facts in recent posts, I would not be suprised to see you pushing a candidate who randomly fired a pistol during a reception.

Well, should I have said self-confessed?  Or is that redundant?  How about just "confessed illegitimate journalist?"  I suppose you are free to choose which ever you prefer.  But, you said so yourself.  And I quote:

Layla 27 wrote:Im a journalist, and i think this is the end of Legitimate Journalism.

Do you deny, or simply fail to comprehend, the obvious logical progression of your earlier statement?  You claim to be a journalist.  You state that Russert's death is the end of legitimate journalism.  Therefore, with the death of Russert there are no legitimate journalists remaining and all remaining journalists are illegitimate.   Therefore, you are a confessed illegitimate journalist.  

You said it, not me.  You seem to keep saying things you don't like to admit saying and then attribute words, statements or ideas to me that I never made.  Of course, since you are a confessed illegitimate journalist that makes sense.  

The problem is that you seem to hate facts and then have to go back and spin your own words out of their original context.  If you would stop making truly illogical posts I wouldn't have to point it out to you on a regular basis.  Of course, using a spellchecker wouldn't hurt either.

The choices are not, and for a very long time have not been, Democrat, Republican or not voting.  

There are several significant 3rd parties offering candidates this year.  I don't believe any one of them is likely to win this year but I believe it is possible that the GOP's flawed process and their open contempt for the conservative wing of the party may be sufficient to push conservatives out of the party in large numbers.  

Disaffected conservatives may well play a critical role in making one of these 3rd parties into one of the top two parties over time.  I don't think it will happen in 2 or 4 years but believe it could happen in 8 to 12 years.  We shall see.  Parties have risen and fallen before.  It could happen again.

paleocon wrote:The choices are not, and for a very long time have not been, Democrat, Republican or not voting.  

There are several significant 3rd parties offering candidates this year.  I don't believe any one of them is likely to win this year but I believe it is possible that the GOP's flawed process and their open contempt for the conservative wing of the party may be sufficient to push conservatives out of the party in large numbers.  

Disaffected conservatives may well play a critical role in making one of these 3rd parties into one of the top two parties over time.  I don't think it will happen in 2 or 4 years but believe it could happen in 8 to 12 years.  We shall see.  Parties have risen and fallen before.  It could happen again.

The "fall" of our party for a new one is not necessary! If you would all just accept that John McCain, who served his country in Vietnam, is the Conservative candidate! You guys are digging us all into a whole by not voting! And you are making my job harder! Does Rush ever take long vacations?

To the guy who said "vote for Cindy" i dont give a damn, as long as its a vote for McCain! win one for the Gipper!!