danviento wrote:People calling in to yesterday's program voiced their support for a third party, and Rush was kind enough to disillusion them of the whole notion. No, there are too many people invested in McCain to have enough funds to support a real conservative run as a third party candidate.
However, there are some pretty ideal conditions for something else altogether: a liberal masquerading as a republican winning the presidency. This is thanks to a ultra left-wing, completely liberal candidate with no experience who even the most confused American who cares about this country will reject. When else could a candidate like McCain emerge and actually win? True, the mass-media and it's brain-flogging chant for Obama may finally get to a lot of people, not to mention those who care more about having a black president than what that person can and will do if in office, but the majority of Americans REJECT liberalism, especially at it's basest form.
Obama is the type of opponent that will drive enough republicans and moderates to the polls just to vote
against him, no matter how distasteful McCain is. Yeah, we'll complain for weeks on end here how messed up McCain is, even for a RINO, but in the end I'm sure we'll be voting for him anyway.
All that's really left to us is to educate people. Friends, co-workers, strangers, whomever will listen. It's like Rush said the other day- the person you're talking to/debating with won't end up agreeing with you, but you can be darn sure that other people hear you, and it's the quiet ones (the thinking ones with no point to defend) that are more likely to be convinced. If you want starting points or supporting material, Rush's show is a great place to start. Besides conservative think thank publications, more can be found in places like NRO:
feed://www.nationalreview.com/index.xmland IBD:
feed://www.ibdeditorials.com/rss/Editorial.xmlSorry about that tangent of a last paragraph there. So, how do you think the candidate of Obama effects McCain's possibility of success? Do you believe Rush's Texan stand-in when he said that both Obama and Hillary are unelectable? And one more: do we have any historical examples of someone as liberal as Obama winning a Presidential election?
i think this year is a done-deal for liberals, the only vote being how left we want it america. but its going to be left.
i agree with the texan on obama and for practical reasons. i also think this has become obvious to the dnc, and who knows. maybe the dnc wants it that way. but why the dnc chose mccain over hillary must be some sort of fall-off from a bargaining table. maybe mccain offered more, i don't know, but prior to palin i would have voted for hillary over mccain. with palin i don't know. just as obama is cloaked compared with mccain, mccain is cloaked compared with hillary. palin is a true breath of fresh air but its hard to say how i would feel if hillary were running. i'm not a hillary fan but its about the choices. hillary is not radical, she's liberal and i can respect that on several levels. mccain similarly but in comparing the two in this theoretical vacuum i tend to like hillary over mccain because she is more obvious -- her convictions are crystal clear whether you like them or not.
the one thing that our past several presidents teach is that neither party has an answer. neither solves anything long-term. its the two parties working together, coming from different perspectives, that offers hope. it got us this far and it will take us further.
a third party? sounds like musical chairs to me. don't need it, the party is full.