Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby paleocon on 06/25/08, 10:31 pm

bedbug wrote:I wonder if Goper is paid by the number of posts he submits on various political forums.


I have yet to discern the true motives of GOPER.  No rational person could possibly think his approach would be efficacious in winning over disgruntled conservatives to the cause of John McCain.  

But, as I said earlier, the blatant hostility, arrogance and condescending attitude toward conservatives actually do seem to mirror McCain’s own approach to reconciling with conservatives.  Maybe GOPER IS John McCain….
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby watcher on 06/25/08, 11:08 pm

Nah! He thinks he is ‘Tricky Dick’ come back to negotiate a SALT treaty between Conservatives and Republicans
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby paleocon on 06/25/08, 11:20 pm

That he chose Nixon as an avatar makes me suspect he really is a Liberal Troll.  No republican, liberal or otherwise, would pick Nixon.
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/26/08, 2:10 am

paleocon wrote:That he chose Nixon as an avatar makes me suspect he really is a Liberal Troll.  No republican, liberal or otherwise, would pick Nixon.



You're right.  It kinda makes you wonder after all his garbage about McCain, why he doesn't have McCain as his avatar.

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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby paleocon on 06/26/08, 8:13 am

watcher wrote:Nah! He thinks he is ‘Tricky Dick’ come back to negotiate a SALT treaty between Conservatives and Republicans


Had Nixon used GOPER's approach in "negotiating" with the Soviets I suspect none of us would be here to discuss anything.  I am fairly sure he has NOT read "How to win friends and influence people."
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby paleocon on 06/26/08, 8:15 am

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paleocon wrote:That he chose Nixon as an avatar makes me suspect he really is a Liberal Troll.  No republican, liberal or otherwise, would pick Nixon.


You're right.  It kinda makes you wonder after all his garbage about McCain, why he doesn't have McCain as his avatar.


That would make sense, IF his intent really is to garner support for McCain.  The evidence is mounting to support a different thesis.
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/26/08, 8:31 am

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paleocon wrote:That he chose Nixon as an avatar makes me suspect he really is a Liberal Troll.  No republican, liberal or otherwise, would pick Nixon.


You're right.  It kinda makes you wonder after all his garbage about McCain, why he doesn't have McCain as his avatar.


That would make sense, IF his intent really is to garner support for McCain.  The evidence is mounting to support a different thesis.


I still think we should troll the Kos and Huff 'n Puff to see if we are being quoted verbatim over there.  He has a penchant for copying and pasting.  I have no doubt his motives are not pure.

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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby paleocon on 06/26/08, 9:57 pm

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I still think we should troll the Kos and Huff 'n Puff to see if we are being quoted verbatim over there.  He has a penchant for copying and pasting.  I have no doubt his motives are not pure.


I actually check out the DailyKooks about once a week.  I don't get to Huffy-Puffy very often though.  I don't think GOPER is one of the DK regulars.  Frankly, their propaganda and disinformation apparatus aren't as juvenile or clumsy as this.  I don't know what GOPER's motive is but it is obviously not about convincing people vote for John McCain.
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby GOPER on 06/26/08, 10:55 pm

Your arrogance is unbelivable sometimes. So the fact that I have moderate views makes me a liberal "invader"?

I chose the Nixon Picture to emphasize the point that you Buckleyites are one part of our party. There is a moderate portion of our party. We need to unite America a bipartisan future. You Buckleyites are a valued part of our party, but you are a THIRD of our party. The Republican Party is One third Very Conservative. One third Evangelical Christian. One third Moderate Conservative. And you are not offended by the  "conservative" label that I have called you. You call yourselves "conservative" all the time on this site. This will be a close election and while we will win most conservatives, if only a small margin of you dont compromise some of your views it could cost us this race.

If I have appered angry or "condesending" in any of my posts, it is because I am frankly getting desprate. I have been here for a week and I have not convinced anyone to vote for John McCain, or made any headway. I assumed I would be here for 2 days and have you all convinced.

Before any guessing and speculation gets out of hand, all I am going to say is that I am more involved than I have let on before. I am not affiliated directly with the McCain Campaign(I doubt they would be able to get vacation in the middle of the campaign). I will say nothing further of my involvement with the Republican Party or John McCain or the McCain Campaign. And, no, I am not John McCain.

And Paleocon, you dont always have to be standing on a moral tower of honesty and justice. Another reason i like Nixon is that he did what he had to do to get the job done. You sound like a very naive Harvard grad. The fact is, if John McCain wants any campaign funds, he will support most of the things you are concerned with. It is unethical, but that is not relevant. That is the way it works. Even with "change" candidate Barack Obama. That these structures are in place to make it nearly impossiable for "mavericks" like McCain to suceed, and to not have candidates like him that alienate our base.

The fact that he has made it this far can be attributed to his war hero story. Just vote for our nominee. No other Republican could appeal to Liberals like McCain could, and no other Republican could possibly could win this November.

As we get closer to the election, memories of The Amnesty Issue, and the McCain Feingold Bill will fade and you will support John McCain. I will make no further posts here during my vacation. Untill then. And I mean it this time, I am out of your hair for a while.

I am not a liberal. I am an old time republican, a moderate republican. Like Nixon, Ford and Bush Sr. And I dont appreciate being called a Liberal after 17 years of loyal work with the GOP, thank you.
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Re: Perfect conditions for a 3rd Party win?

Postby bedbug on 06/26/08, 11:24 pm

Ah, Mr Chairman, a point of order if you please. John McCain has made it this far because of liberals and independents voting in open primary states. Republicans did not nominate the senator. Sorry Goper, this is a spin exclusion zone. Tell it like it really is, or be called out.
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