Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby theRat on 09/24/08, 11:33 pm

All,

I've tried to post this thread twice before - but it has been removed by "dittohead".  His reasoning for the removal of the thread was that my comment did not refer to sources.  I find this curious since I see *many* threads in these forums that do not refer to sources.  So here is my original comment - along with sources:

All, I've heard from the left media that while Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska that her town was the *only* town in Alaska that charged alleged rape victims for rape kits - a rape kit is used by the police to gather evidence (or lack of evidence) for rape.  While I have seen this story reported by the left media, I'd like to get the story from the right - as I'm guessing that there is another side to the story.  Here are the sources that I'm referring to:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/21/ ... index.html
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-health-a ... estion.htm
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/polit ... silla.html

Any sources on the right that you can point me to would be appreciated.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby Calypso Jones on 09/24/08, 11:39 pm

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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby theRat on 09/24/08, 11:52 pm

Calypso Jones wrote:I'm sure i'll regret this.

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/273965.php


Interesting article.  It seems to posit two different things: first, that it is *factually* true but that no women were ever charged; second, that it may have never been factual at all and was just made up by the left.  Do you have an opinion on which of these 2 ideas you believe?  I'm not familiar with Confederate Yankee.  I was hoping to find something on fox.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby Calypso Jones on 09/25/08, 12:21 am

I can't say i'm surprised.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby dittohead on 09/26/08, 7:23 am

Hi Rat,

Let me remind you of the rules of posting on this forum:

The Golden Rule

This is a conservative forum.  While we are open to liberal/socialist/communist posters, they must respect the fact that the majority of members here are conservative.  We reserve the right to delete any post that isn't respectful of the conservative nature of the forums.  We welcome honest debate that's crafted in an intelligent, meaningful way.  Slanderous comments about Rush Limbaugh, conservatism, or board members will not be tolerated.

When you start a thread with a slanderous statement about a conservative leader without concrete sources, it will be deleted at our discretion.  If it becomes a habit, you will be banned from the site.

Rat, you have been our one and only non-flaming liberal poster that we have had on our site, and I'm not trying to find a reason to ban you.  But, you were over the top on this one - along with your 'Trooper-gate' thread.

Remember, this is not a neutral site, and it will reflect the values of conservatism.  We will be vigilent in deleting unvetted topics that you would expect to find on 'Daily Kos'.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby jrg907 on 09/27/08, 4:17 am

Appreciate your comments and the hard work you and your family do on this site. When I first found this site I thought it would be the typical talking points, etc. However, I have been pleasantly surprised that there is a lot of thoughtful comments posted. I know there are some that just repeat talking points without thinking for themselves but for the most part there is pretty good debate on this site.  Thanks again and good luck.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby Calypso Jones on 09/27/08, 9:18 am

jrg907 wrote:I have been pleasantly surprised that there is a lot of thoughtful comments posted. I know there are some that just repeat talking points without thinking for themselves but for the most part there is pretty good debate on this site.  Thanks again and good luck.



I'm sure every conservative forum has it's usual 'cross to bear' of visiting leftists that just repeat talking points without thinking for themselves.    As long as they're not jumping on the furniture and peeing on the carpets, the mods and admins here do a remarkable job of tolerating them.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby theRat on 09/27/08, 5:06 pm

dittohead wrote:Hi Rat,

Let me remind you of the rules of posting on this forum:

The Golden Rule

This is a conservative forum.  While we are open to liberal/socialist/communist posters, they must respect the fact that the majority of members here are conservative.  We reserve the right to delete any post that isn't respectful of the conservative nature of the forums.  We welcome honest debate that's crafted in an intelligent, meaningful way.  Slanderous comments about Rush Limbaugh, conservatism, or board members will not be tolerated.

When you start a thread with a slanderous statement about a conservative leader without concrete sources, it will be deleted at our discretion.  If it becomes a habit, you will be banned from the site.

Rat, you have been our one and only non-flaming liberal poster that we have had on our site, and I'm not trying to find a reason to ban you.  But, you were over the top on this one - along with your 'Trooper-gate' thread.

Remember, this is not a neutral site, and it will reflect the values of conservatism.  We will be vigilent in deleting unvetted topics that you would expect to find on 'Daily Kos'.


Well, the last thing I want to do is get banned from the site.  I'll try to be cautious - but I have to admit that I'm at a bit of a loss.  The 2 items that you refer to came straight from foxnews and cnn - not anything like daily kos.  I've actually never visited daily kos.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby theRat on 09/27/08, 5:07 pm

theRat wrote:Well, the last thing I want to do is get banned from the site.  I'll try to be cautious - but I have to admit that I'm at a bit of a loss.  The 2 items that you refer to came straight from foxnews and cnn - not anything like daily kos.  I've actually never visited daily kos.


Also meant to add that I do appreciate your providing of these forums.
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Re: Palin in Wasilla - only mayor to charge for rape kits

Postby seabee on 09/28/08, 4:37 am

theRat wrote:
theRat wrote:Well, the last thing I want to do is get banned from the site. I'll try to be cautious - but I have to admit that I'm at a bit of a loss. The 2 items that you refer to came straight from foxnews and cnn - not anything like daily kos. I've actually never visited daily kos.


Also meant to add that I do appreciate your providing of these forums.


you're a good man rat, and to the point of your posting...

...so what? in small town america the people still rule. we govern with a very tight fist. the mayor is a tool that has to pick up the mess we make for ourselves. its nothing like national politics and assimilating national with local as an indicator of morality is inaccurate and inappropriate.

i'll give you an example from this little corner of the world. in our town we pay the very highest taxes in the state. virtually the entire budget goes to education. and we have one of the largest, newest facilities housing the fewest students per square foot. we have the highest paid teachers in the state, possibly country. and we have a lot of them. all supposed hot-shots. we also have multiple sports complexes, some with 1-aa rated astro-turf. our high school complex puts most private colleges to shame.

yet out-of-pocket we pay for our kid's participation in sports. programs. crayons. markers. paper. food. trips. on and on. and we're not talking about small amounts of money. serious jack. i don't know what the average family pays per kid but at this house its over $1,000 and without this the kids simply do not get to participate in anything other than class, and even there it would be without the tools needed to learn.

hoover would envy the sucking sound our schools make, not just monetarily but performance wise too. generally the children of this town show mediocre academic performance compared with their grouping. and the teams cannot win a game to save their lives much less their own reputation. the only successes i attribute to our kids are the one's we, my wife and i, give them. the school is a complete sham as far as we are concerned.

and the only people that don't see this is that soccer-mom-mafia that collect like a flock of rabid cats, have and make the time to attend and vote at every public hearing, make certain its an open vote, explode at even the slightest observations on that budget, get another increase passed, and then celebrate by tossing back another prosac with a vodka chaser spinning off in the dark in their suv or van, and ready to the quick to argue about how green we are in la la land.

this town, one of the wealthiest, can't scrape together two quarters to fix a road. or drainage system. or pay the police. or anything else for that matter. you cannot image the amount of volunteerism and donations that keep this place going.

if this town were to distribute rape kits, our mayor would be forced to stick them in vending machines. personally i know the man well, and he'd love nothing more than to give them away. and every day that poor man shakes his head in complete dismay at the behavior of the parents in this town. its just sickening.

business is business. notions of morality are great if you can afford them. but don't blame a mayor for financial woes inflicted on a town by its own people. go look in a mirror.
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