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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/27/08, 10:22 pm

GOPER wrote:
paleocon wrote:"KeepTheChange".  That is GREAT!  

Obama is scary.  Can you imagine what the press would say and how the people would respond to a revelation that John McCain "hung out" with David Duke or George Lincoln Rockwell or Fred Phelps for 20 years?  Yet this is "no problem" for Barry Obama.  Make racist statements in your two books?  No problem if you are Barry Obama!  The press is there to cover for you.


Now, I know you Buckleyites are angry but this hurtful rheortic is not necessary. We need to be a Party Bipartisan for the United America. Barack Obama may have some quetstionable  connections, but it is obvious that he loves this country. We should avoid these kind of divisive gutter politics. Let's attack Obama on Important issues.

Lets win one for America!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets win one for the Gipper!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets win one for the Republican Party in 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!




DICK.....

It is obvious McCain will not bring up some very important issues because he is afraid of being called a racist.  Obama, in his own words, is not criticizeable because of his race..on any issue.

We do not feel that way.  We are not afraid of being called racists because we question his associations, his Marxist ideology, his black separatist ideas, his loyalty to America, his judgement, his inexperience, etc., etc., etc.

It is our job to bring out these things.  It is our job to identify areas where he is not qualified to become President of the greatest country on earth.

It is not our job to get a RINO elected.

It is not our job to pump up a dying political party.

It is our job to try to keep this country free, try to get the Constitution back into the center of things, try to get the politicians in Washington to see we are PISSED AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!

It is our job to out the Communist DNC Nominee and we intend to continue to do just that.

We are not calling him gay and a drug user, although he might have experience with those things since his childhood mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist Party USA member and pedophylle who liked young boys of light brown skin.

McCain is a lousy campaigner and a lousy conservative.  The next person he throws under the public conveyance vehicle will probably be his wife.  The list is growing, just as Obama's list is also growing.  McCain does it at the drop of a hat; Obama does it after 20 years of intimate friendship with radical people who he should be questioned about and forced to answer about.

Frankly, Ronnie is probably not just turning over in his grave but doing flipflops and trying to claw his way out because of what you people have done to the Republican Party and because McCain has become the appointed rather than elected nominee.  

DICK,
If we were to keep up the passivity you propose, Obama will be our next President for sure.  Why don't you have McCain read this forum.  Perhaps he might grow some cahones.  You can print everything off for him since he's not capable of using a computer.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby watcher on 06/27/08, 11:20 pm

GOPER wrote:

Yes I will go away for a few weeks, but I keep reading these agressive posts. I am hoping that the author will be persuaded to delete them from the record so that an independant doesnt see them, and refuse to vote for McCain. Every vote counts.


I repeat:

Senator Obama hides behind his skin colour and uses false cries of racism to attempt to deflect any criticisms of exactly what the issues and those reasons are.
The only time I hear about race is from the Communist DNC and their candidates, pundits, and news commentators.
Don’t question Obama’s policies. He’s black. That is not allowed.
Don’t question Obama’s past. He’s black. That is not allowed.
Anyone will be called a racist if it suits Senator Obama. Anyone will be called a racist to keep important issues from being discussed if it suits Senator Obama.

THIS IS BULL CRAP.
I don’t care that he is black.
I will question his policies. I will question his past. I will question his judgment.


Maybe if the Independent voter was incouraged to questioned Senator Obama's policies, past and judgment that they would vote for McCain all on the very own.

Goper, your are running your campaign for Senator McCain like you are a used car saleman. Everyone that reads what your write is wondering if you are tring to sell them a lemon.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby paleocon on 06/27/08, 11:23 pm

watcher wrote:Goper, your are running your campaign for Senator McCain like you are a used car saleman. Everyone that reads what your write is wondering if you are tring to sell them a lemon.


No, everyone is not wondering.  Almost all of us KNOW McCain is a lemon.  

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN.  
He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby paleocon on 06/28/08, 12:01 am

I agree with GOPER that we should attack Obama on substantive issues.  

Here is a short list:


  1. Amnesty and Open Borders.
  2. Willingness to meet with La Raza.
  3. Shutting down Gitmo.
  4. Protecting Free Speech.
  5. Man Made Global Warming.

Those are areas where Obama should be vulnerable!  McCain can use those issues to pound home his differnces with Obama!  

Oh, wait.  Never mind.  I'll try to come up with another list where there ARE differences of opinion.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/28/08, 12:18 am

paleocon wrote:I agree with GOPER that we should attack Obama on substantive issues.  

Here is a short list:


[LIST=1]
[*]Amnesty and Open Borders.
[*]Willingness to meet with La Raza.
[*]Shutting down Gitmo.
[*]Protecting Free Speech.
[*]Man Made Global Warming.




6.    Universal Health Care
7.    Millenium Declaration and the Global Poverty Act
8.    Partial and After-Birth Abortions
9.    LOST
10.  2nd Amendment
11.  The War


Well, here's a few more.  McCain supports several of them too in one way or another.  There's not a Lemon Law for President, but there should be for the Republican Nominee for President.  Let's suggest it to the Supreme Court.  Maybe they can legislate one for us...  Oh, no, those 5 probably love McCain because he's the weakest candidate that could ever run for Prez under the "R."  They only like legislating laws from the Communist Party DNC playbook.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby paleocon on 06/28/08, 12:22 am

Wait, now. To be fair, I THINK John McCain calls his version of socialized medicine "National Health Care" instead of "Universal Health Care."

There is a HUGE difference between "National" and "Universal." Just ask GOPER to explain it.
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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby GOPER on 06/28/08, 1:05 am

When I come back form vacation, I will try to spin the difference between national and universal. It will be an interesting performance. It will difficult. It may be impossiable. But I will just sweep it under the rug untill then.

Paleocon, you will eventually come to your sences as we get closer to the election. Then, as the largest poster you will bring most of the other posters with you. You are responsible soley for much of the productive discussion on this site.
Join your friend phxcon, who now is proudly supporting John McCain, The Republican Nominee, for president!!!

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Re: In Obama's own words

Postby watcher on 06/28/08, 2:23 am

What was said and when they said it during an election becomes a problem but this year it just seems worse. When you have so many media outlets that no longer report with accurate information it becomes extremely frustrating to find the true statement. Trying to dig through all the garbage on the web is daunting in its self so last year I was looking for a way to find out what exactly a candidate said about an issue and I found this site. It is not the end all to everything one wants to know but it has helped and so far I have not found any inaccuracies.
I use this site to check on what candidate’s stand for, what they said and what the past record is on subjects in conjunction with what is claimed they said in media and speeches and debates. They cover Republican, Democrat and Independent candidates all across the country for state, federal and presidential positions in 2007 and 2008. You can also take a quiz on subjects that are considered the main issues in any election and then compare your view to which candidate best matches what you think. It also has how the past and current Supreme Court Justices view some of these same issues. It also has Party Platform stances.
On the Issues is a website that is a non-partisan that collects information from speeches, daily newspapers, press releases and the internet for what the candidate has said about an issue.

I thought it might prove to be helpful.
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