The country is split down the middle.   A debate is hardly going to change that.

We give too much credit to the undecideds.  They are stupid.  They are lazy.  They are emotional.  And they don't decide till the last minute whom to cast a vote for...IF they make it to the polls, and their decision is based on some nonsensical thing.   So, in essence the leadership of our country is being decided by blithering imbeciles if we can believe that the undecideds do make up that portion of the voting public.   SHoot. There are probably a lot of illegals, deceased and former criminals in that bunch too.    How's that make you feel.

I think undecides are by and large conservatives who are afraid to tell the poller they are conservative.  The truth is in the north (where I live) and many areas in the west, saying you are republican or conservative is a dirty word.  I mean that in the most serious way possible.  It's typical for conservatives to say they don't really follow politics, or I don't like either candidate.  It's a way of not being democrat, but not outing oneself as a conservative.

I disagree with this behavior - but it does exist.

Anyone who is truly undecided between a full on socialist with no experience, and a left leaning republican with war time experience is not interested in politics, or the future of their country.  These people aren't going to vote unless someone brings them cigarettes, and a ride to the polling place.

ultracon wrote:I think undecides are by and large conservatives who are afraid to tell the poller they are conservative.  The truth is in the north (where I live) and many areas in the west, saying you are republican or conservative is a dirty word.  I mean that in the most serious way possible.  It's typical for conservatives to say they don't really follow politics, or I don't like either candidate.  It's a way of not being democrat, but not outing oneself as a conservative.

I disagree with this behavior - but it does exist.

Anyone who is truly undecided between a full on socialist with no experience, and a left leaning republican with war time experience is not interested in politics, or the future of their country.  These people aren't going to vote unless someone brings them cigarettes, and a ride to the polling place.

here in yankee-ville, where i have been displaced for some time now, calling yourself a conservative or republican for that matter loosely translates into wearing your blue collar proudly. pretty-much all blue collars in this area are republicans, or at least they vote that way. even if they're union although we still have thugs that go poll hoping. show up in vans...funny how those particular vans seem to always get a flat.

but saying you're a democrat, well, that'll get you invited to the finest key, crack and coke parties in town. there are democrats here too, but they don't say that. not publically anyway and it seems like more and more are voting independent.

ultracon wrote:I think undecides are by and large conservatives who are afraid to tell the poller they are conservative.  The truth is in the north (where I live) and many areas in the west, saying you are republican or conservative is a dirty word.  I mean that in the most serious way possible.  It's typical for conservatives to say they don't really follow politics, or I don't like either candidate.  It's a way of not being democrat, but not outing oneself as a conservative.

I think it depends on the region.  I lived in North Carolina - and then Indiana for a number of years - and there were definately times when I didn't feel like it was in my best interests to let people know that I was a registered Democrat (at the time).