McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/22/08, 10:30 pm

A fifty some year old wife to a 72 year old man in an approximately 25 year long marriage  doesn't really strike me as a trophy wife.   I think her trophy years are over.  

hey. but if it makes you feel like you're on to something, you go with it.  We'll just stand over here to the side till you're done with it.
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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby jokeness on 08/22/08, 10:32 pm

mr_spock wrote:I have lots of posts on issues. Why don't you read the abortion string? This topic is "McCain-The Trophy Wife Opportunist". Can you here me now?

It's "hear" not "here".   Who cares about McCain's wife.  Apparently Obama's wife is considered "hands off", why not McCain's?
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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/22/08, 10:35 pm

one thing we can be sure of.  Michelle wasn't a trophy wife...then, now or ever.
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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby SoldiersMum on 08/22/08, 11:45 pm

Mr_Spock..  Since you were not in McCain's living room and neither were any of us, you cannot tell what the mindset of either McCain when he returned from being a POW or his wife was.  Without giving me a diatribe about him not staying with the first wife, please just tell me the answer to this question:

What is wrong with a man marrying a beautiful, younger wife, who just happens to be rich and oh by the way has beer?

Isn't that every man's dream?  What's the matter with you?  Are you jealous that the old coot got every man's dream?

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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby mr_spock on 08/23/08, 12:30 am

Damn Mum, you nailed me! Seriously though, I've been married 14 years now. I've gained 20 lbs. or so, and my wife at least that. We have a 20 year old son(he was 5 when we met) and a 14year old daughter. She's the first and only wife I'll have (unless she dies, which I hope doesn't happen). When I said "I do", it was the most important commitment possible for me to make. When that happened, I knew it wouldn't always be a bed of roses, and believe me, it isn't. It takes a hell of a lot of love, work, compromise, and most important of all, acceptance. Acceptance that we're both going to grow and change and not always see eye to eye. Underlying all that is our commitment to eachother. Many times it would have been easy to pack it in and seek a younger girlfriend or wife. I don't because I honor the commitment I made when I said "I do". Isn't the rampant divorce rate and lack of commitment something that would be blamed on the "liberals"? When McCain came back from Nam, they were both radically changed by hurt and pain. He, of course, in a POW camp and she by a disfiguring car crash(no longer the beautiful model that he married). Those are the things that are meant by "in sickness and in health" and "till death do us part". I don't take those statements lightly. I think that the cruelest thing McCain could do was to abandon his wife at a time when she needed him most. How convenient that his new girlfriend was younger, prettier, and also filthy rich and able to support him through his political ambitions. Seems his previous commitment became inconvenient and cumbersome so he abandoned it.
If that doesn't speak to a person's character, I don't what does. When you dig beneath the surface, he's not the squeeky clean war hero that people like to think. I have much respect for his service in Nam, but the "tortured POW" card seems to blind people to the rest of the deck.
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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby SoldiersMum on 08/23/08, 1:19 am

Mr_Spock, you are a good man and your wife is a lucky woman.  Some of aren't as lucky to have that commitment from a man.

I have been married twice.  My first husband was gay, a fact he conveniently forgot to tell me when we married.  I am 8 years junior my seond.  His girlfriend was 5 years younger than me.  It looks like I should be screaming at what an awful person McCain was since mine went for the trophy, but I'm not.  You said:

"I think that the cruelest thing McCain could do was to abandon his wife at a time when she needed him most. How convenient that his new girlfriend was younger, prettier, and also filthy rich and able to support him through his political ambitions. Seems his previous commitment became inconvenient and cumbersome so he abandoned it. "

My point is this...no one knows what goes on behind someone's front door.  You have condemned McCain but you have no proof that he did what you actually said.  It could have been mutual or maybe it wasn't. He had to have been one emotionally messed up person when he returned from 5 years of being imprisoned and she was probably messed up too from the accident.  Perhaps they could not give what either of them needed.  

I see him as a man who finally got it right and after what he's been thru deserves to be happy.  

McCain met Cindy in 1979 when he was separated from his first wife (they were actually separated several times because their marriage was failing).  His divorce was final in Jan '80.  They married in May of 1980. He has been married to Cindy for 28 years.  He has 7 children, 2 adopted (his first wife's), 1 by his first wife, 3 by Cindy and 1 adopted from Bangledesh.  

Here is what he wrote in his book:   "Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite. But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."

He takes complete responsibility.  I don't believe the war didn't have alot to do with it myself.  Many of the Vietnam Prisoners of War did not stay married or even have wives to come home to.  It was a bad time.  He's been married for 28 years to Cindy.  Looks like you could give him some credit for that.

Oh, and BTW, my question about a man marrying a younger woman, who is rich and has beer  being a man's dream was a joke.

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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby Calypso Jones on 08/23/08, 8:52 am

a younger woman with beer?   THAT is no joke.   Put a hoagie in her handbag and men will follow her anywhere.
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Re: McCain the trophy-wife opportunist

Postby mr_spock on 08/23/08, 5:16 pm

Just for the record, if she dabs a little Jagermeister behind her ears.......
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