A poster on another forum, in connection with her post about the re-igniting persecution of British Jews stated:

Renwaa wrote:I still cannot comprehend why Jews are so persecuted.
It is pure insanity. There is a large Jewish population here in Panama and whenever I see them about, I honestly think to myself they are special for not ever giving up.

When Jews were made G-d's Chosen People, G-d didn't say for what they were chosen. My own thinking is for never giving up, for being educated, successful, and envied. The latter equals being hated.

Malcontents who cannot achieve on their own feed on conspiracy theories. And what more natural target of a conspiracy theory than a group which is generally literate, well-educated, well-behaved, well-regarded and orderly, whether in New York City, Toronto, London, Kingston (Jamaica), Continental Europe (before they were butchered), Australia or wherever. Similarly, Israel is a modern, orderly democracy, which the neighboring countries are hell-holes of intrigue, grinding poverty and internecine violence.

No wonder Jews are envied. They have things other people can't figure out how to get. Another poster correctly responded that "the Jews have adhered to religious tenets that work for them since long before Christianity came into being. There is a solid argument for adhering to fundamental Judaeo-Christian teachings. Those who stray eventually pay".

The consequences of straying from the Judeo-Christian ethic, that has created most of what is great about the Anglosphere, are easy to see:
Exhibit:

Sexual and social revolution of late 60's/early 70's;


1. Spiraling divorce rates;
   
2. Rising crime;
   
3. Delinquency;
4. Demands for "gay rights";
5. AIDS;
6. Herpes;
7. Crack;
8. Heroin
   Islam
   
   
   1. Intrigue;
      
   2. Violene;
   3. Chaos;
   4. Dictatorship;
   5. Grinding povertyOne can quibble about the details. One cannot quibble about the big picture on either of those things.
      Renwaa, in connection with her posting on the persecution of British Jews, posted these links to about six You-Tube videos. The most  worthwhile of these, in my humble opinion are <A href="" <A href="'<A" watch?v='ZxQixGqOdcc""' http://www.youtube.com ?>http:>Part 1 and  <A href="" <A href="'<A" watch?v='AsTPDCF0VhY""' http://www.youtube.com ?>http:>Part 5.

There is also a pernicious connection between Socialism/Communism and anti-Semitism.  Commies point to the "unfairness" of capitalist systems and declare that only the sneakiest, greediest, most heartless scum rise to positions of economic prosperity, generally by exploiting the "good" people.

Since Jews are statistically better off than other ethnic groups in the same areas, even in spite of being a truly oppressed minority, a good commie must conclude that Jews are inordinately evil.

Can we draw some sort of conclusion about that and Clinton era diplomacy which caused the Israelis to abandon the Gaza?  That new treaty did give the Palestinians a nice new place to shoot rockets from.

Liberal ethics or lack of ethics is destroying America. Today you are seeing very little of Judeo-Christian eithics. What you are seeing is liberal immorality taking over. That is why more abhorent things are happening. God is being kicked out of America, His and His Word are being outlawed. No wonder America is going down hill.

Liberals see Judeo-Christian ethics through their hate mongering delusional eyes. They only believe what they want to. If it is moral or of good report liberals are against it.

I have never seen such a bunch of people that are so full of vile and irrational hatred and full of hypocrisy as today's liberal.

Excellent post!!!

JBGUSA wrote:A poster on another forum, in connection with her post about the re-igniting persecution of British Jews stated:

Renwaa wrote:I still cannot comprehend why Jews are so persecuted.
It is pure insanity. There is a large Jewish population here in Panama and whenever I see them about, I honestly think to myself they are special for not ever giving up.

When Jews were made G-d's Chosen People, G-d didn't say for what they were chosen. My own thinking is for never giving up, for being educated, successful, and envied. The latter equals being hated.

Malcontents who cannot achieve on their own feed on conspiracy theories. And what more natural target of a conspiracy theory than a group which is generally literate, well-educated, well-behaved, well-regarded and orderly, whether in New York City, Toronto, London, Kingston (Jamaica), Continental Europe (before they were butchered), Australia or wherever. Similarly, Israel is a modern, orderly democracy, which the neighboring countries are hell-holes of intrigue, grinding poverty and internecine violence.

No wonder Jews are envied. They have things other people can't figure out how to get. Another poster correctly responded that "the Jews have adhered to religious tenets that work for them since long before Christianity came into being. There is a solid argument for adhering to fundamental Judaeo-Christian teachings. Those who stray eventually pay".

The consequences of straying from the Judeo-Christian ethic, that has created most of what is great about the Anglosphere, are easy to see:
Exhibit:

Sexual and social revolution of late 60's/early 70's;


1. Spiraling divorce rates;
   
2. Rising crime;
   
3. Delinquency;
4. Demands for "gay rights";
5. AIDS;
6. Herpes;
7. Crack;
8. Heroin
   Islam
   
   
   1. Intrigue;
      
   2. Violene;
   3. Chaos;
   4. Dictatorship;
   5. Grinding povertyOne can quibble about the details. One cannot quibble about the big picture on either of those things.
      Renwaa, in connection with her posting on the persecution of British Jews, posted these links to about six You-Tube videos. The most  worthwhile of these, in my humble opinion are <A href="" <A href="'<A" watch?v='ZxQixGqOdcc""' http://www.youtube.com ?>http:>Part 1 and  <A href="" <A href="'<A" watch?v='AsTPDCF0VhY""' http://www.youtube.com ?>http:>Part 5.

I remember when liberal was liberal.  My problem is that liberals aren't liberal at all.  The wonderful "liberals" that run Oregon have turned it into one of the nastiest police states you ever saw.

There is a sickness loose in the world today, immorality, apostasy, leftism, LUNACY.  And it frightens me, an atheist, to the point that I may join a church or synogogue just so that I am not associated with the people who have this sickness.

You have a very good point here. There are many who belong to churchs and synagogues not because they believe all that is preached 'lock stock and barrel', but because they want to bring up their children in a moral environment that is not out there in our modern society.

You know that is absolutely correct.  I went to a Roman Catholic High School and 1/3 of the student body wasn't Catholic.  Some were atheists. A few even believed in Islam.  They were there for a better education and to avoid the toilet that is public education.

Really, I don't care what people believe, but I do think they need to believe something other that the liberal religion.....apathy...  Things go better with God and even if you end up an atheist, it couldn't hurt to explore spirituality, morality and ethics in a traditional sense.

If you can't accept the spiritual aspects of religion, at least you could look at a hundred generations of people that thought the tenets of whatever religion they embrace were a good way to live.  Life will SHOW you that our traditional morality, which doesn't vary much in the worlds major religions, mostly gives good insight into leading a beneficial and happy life.

A drug counselor I know who had a jaded life once told me "Fly straight or the world will kick your ass!".  I agree. Now he flies straight and follows what the bible says and he has been rewarded with good family, prosperity enough to get by and good friends.  Beats San Quentin where he spent 12 years. Because he is a good and moral man, he got the one thing that he really wanted.  That's self respect and the respect of other people.  So I guess a little bit of Jesus doesn't hurt.

I don't even know if I believe in God, but I do recognize that following what religion says is beneficial.  Just about every problem I've had in my life would have been avoided if I'd have just done what the bible said.

So, we have religion as a guideline for leading a happy life and liberalism as the freedom to make yourself absolutely miserable.  You pick.

Very interesting thread.

As conservatives have been arguing for decades, these are all the reasons why American forefathers claimed democracy and free market were a gift from God. In other words, there is no royal class inherently better and smarter than the masses, and corruptible human institutions are not there to decide a man's liberty. God creates all men equal and gives all men equal liberty.

This idea was meant as a slap in the face of European monarchy. Stop brainwashing your people into believing you are so much better than them. Stop playing God and taking away their liberties at will. We no longer answer to a disconnected upper class. We answer to ourselves and to God alone.

It was again revived to fight Communism in the 40s and 50s. That's why we have "under God" in our pledge of allegiance. Congress approved it at the start of the Cold War to separate our ideology. We do not allow our government to be swayed by men - be a king, a dictator, whatever. Communism is alike with feudalism when it comes to a thirst for power. We know better, we're more capable of running things, all you unwashed masses just do whatever we say and you'll be fine.

I'm sure conservative atheists can agree with us on that. Whether or not God be there, we know for sure He doesn't look like Hilary Clinton. And none of us want to give Hilary the power to control us.

When we remove the idea of inherent right and wrong, when we start looking for man-made solutions to make ourselves feel better, we start slipping into crime and poverty. As our friend eyas said, most of the Bible is basic common sense. Get married to the love of your life and be faithful. Work hard for your money. Raise your children to be responsible. Don't hurt anyone. Don't steal from anyone.

Liberalism wants to do away with all of these things.