John McCain: Disaster in the making.

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Re: John McCain: Disaster in the making.

Postby watcher on 06/09/08, 1:44 pm

Senator John McCain is not the perfect candidate for the president but getting the alternative, Senator Obama, would be the true disaster to this country. Divide the votes of Republicans and Conservatives. Democrat’s win. Divided we fail. Can this country survive Obama’s foreign and domestic policies? Can we afford to take that chance? Would I prefer a much more conservative candidate? Yes. Would I prefer less government? Yes. Can you eliminate programs that support people in a climate of economic decline and world unrest? No. Do we have a potential conservative candidate who is strong enough to actually win an election? No. And be honest, we will not for a number of years to come. Would a conservative as the current president make any difference with the current Legislative Branch in office? Nope. So, we do what the Dems have been doing for years. Change something here tweak something there. Work within local and state governments to stop the continued march towards Socialism. Less people dependant on the government reduces the size of needed government. Educate. Inspire. Enlist. We also need Independents who have become unhappy with both of their parties. We need someone who can compromise with both sides to keep this country afloat. Right now, McCain is our best bet. Making Lemons into lemonade. Hey, we are Americans, it what we know how to do.  
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Re: John McCain: Disaster in the making.

Postby paleocon on 06/09/08, 2:16 pm

watcher wrote:Senator John McCain is not the perfect candidate for the president but getting the alternative, Senator Obama, would be the true disaster to this country. Divide the votes of Republicans and Conservatives. Democrat’s win. Divided we fail.


Well, nobody is arguing that McCain is perfect.  It is ironic that you point out this obvious fact about dividing the party.  But, I am not dividing anything.  John McCain is blatantly trying to alienate conservative and conservative Christians.  You need to explain this fact to John McCain and not me.   He is working overtime to alienate people like me and he will accomplish this goal if he hasn't already.  

watcher wrote:Can this country survive Obama’s foreign and domestic policies? Can we afford to take that chance? Would I prefer a much more conservative candidate? Yes. Would I prefer less government? Yes. Can you eliminate programs that support people in a climate of economic decline and world unrest? No. Do we have a potential conservative candidate who is strong enough to actually win an election? No. And be honest, we will not for a number of years to come.


We survived Jimmy Carter so, yes, we can probably survive Barack Obama.  I lived through Carter and cringed at his idiocy but America is stronger than any one bad president.  And I don't disagree with you about the utter lack of near-term future for true conservative leadership for the country.  

watcher wrote:Would a conservative as the current president make any difference with the current Legislative Branch in office? Nope.


I disagree with you here.  A true conservative would have vetoed many of the bills G W Bush has signed and even championed in the last eight years.  Can you imagine Reagan signing McCain-Feingold or the Medicare Prescription boondoggle?  

watcher wrote:So, we do what the Dems have been doing for years. Change something here tweak something there. Work within local and state governments to stop the continued march towards Socialism. Less people dependant on the government reduces the size of needed government. Educate. Inspire. Enlist. We also need Independents who have become unhappy with both of their parties.

But, the problem is the GOP has now adopted the socialist, Dem platform and are trying to out-socialist the Dems!  State and local governments will go in the direction of whoever offers the most federal money.  It happens every time.  We are making independents unhappy with both parties.  But we are making conservatives unhappy with the GOP in greater numbers.  Great, we win a few independent voters and alienate 40 million conservatives.  That is not a winning strategy in any way.  Surely you see that?  

watcher wrote:We need someone who can compromise with both sides to keep this country afloat. Right now, McCain is our best bet. Making Lemons into lemonade. Hey, we are Americans, it what we know how to do.  


We don't need to "compromise" with socialists.  We need to defeat socialism.  Compromise with socialists leads to socialism.  Obama is our best bet to socialism in 12 years.  McCain is our best bet to socialism in 16 years.  Big fat hairy difference.  But, I am not going to get drawn into this debate again.  I have already made my decision and reasons very clear.
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Re: John McCain: Disaster in the making.

Postby paleocon on 06/20/08, 12:45 am

This just in at MichelleMalkin.com!

John McCain is holding closed-door, no press allowed meetings with Latinos telling them he is going to implement "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" in 2009 if he is elected.  

See this report from someone who actually got invited.  

JOHN MCCAIN - TELLING LIES TO ANGLOS OTHER POLITICIANS CAN'T, AT LEAST NOT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!

John McCain’s favorite words of the evening were Comprehensive Immigration Reform. But he started out first of all saying if he is gonna win the Presidential election he will need the support of the Latino community.

He said ” My state has been enriched by the Hispanic culture in Arizona.”

Then John McCain asked a question “Did you know this? I bet some of you did not know that Spanish was spoken in Arizona before English” …Loud cheers from the audience. (Ok John McCain What is your AZTLAN POINT?)

Then he said “I want to have some straight talk about our relationship with Mexico,our closest neighbor and dearest friend” He talked about the Mexican President fighting the drug cartels.

Then John McCain aid the exact thing I came to hear, he said “I was proud to work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform and If I am elected President I assure you that in 2009 I will ask Congress to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform.” (The crowd goes wild) “It is a Federal Responsibility” he said and continued ” we also need a temporary guest worker program”

He then told a story about a day laborer who got picked up this morning, worked all day and then never got paid…We have no Federal Policy, we cannot allow this to happen, he said, He repeated I assure you that I will work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

John McCain talked about a debate he was in about enforcing the law and he says that the “other side had a lot of “Rhetoric” “you know what I am talking about!” he said…
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Re: John McCain: Disaster in the making.

Postby paleocon on 06/26/08, 8:01 am

This just in from Politico.  It is probably for the best in light of all the truly stupid things McCain has said recently.  Think of the gaffes he would have to deal with if he worked two more days each week.  

John McCain doesn't work weekends
By JONATHAN MARTIN | 6/26/08 4:47 AM EST  

McCain has done little to capture media attention on weekends for nearly five months.

Since effectively capturing the Republican nomination when Mitt Romney dropped out of the race on February 7, John McCain has held just one public campaign event on a weekend.

Instead, after workweeks full of fundraisers, town hall meetings and interviews, McCain has been, in campaign parlance, “down” on nearly every Saturday or Sunday for 20 weeks, largely sequestered away from the news media.


Read the rest here.
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