Joan Rivers Slaps Down Darcus Howe (Racist)

Joan Rivers Slaps Down Darcus Howe (Racist)

Postby TheIndependent on 08/01/08, 12:06 am

Joan Rivers was accused of being racist and here is how she replied to the accusation. Very relevent to ObamaNation calling McCain  a racist.

Click here to listen to it      http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4350000/newsid_4359500/4359582.stm?bw=nb&mp=rm&news=1&bbcws=1



The video is no where to be found on the internet anymore, I saw it on Youtube and its gone!



Here is the transcript (beware - some strong language):


Joan Rivers: I'm so bored of race. I think people should inter-marry. Everybody should be part this, part that and part everything and race doesn't mean a damn thing. It's about people... everybody should just relax, take the best of their cultures and move forward.


Libby Purves: That's a very American approach, a melting pot approach.


Darcus Howe: That's not an American approach. America is one of the most savagely racial places in the world.
Later on:

Howe: Since black offends Joan I will make it..


Rivers: Wait. Just stop right now, Black does not offend me. How dare you, how dare you say that. Black offends me? You know nothing about me, you sat down here. How dare you.


Howe: The use of the term black offends you.


Rivers: The use of the term black offends me? Where the hell are you coming from? You have got such a chip on your shoulder. How dare you say that to me.


Howe: I think this is a language problem.


Rivers: No I don't. I think this is a problem in your stupid head. You had a child, you left them, your wife said you weren't there. You married a woman, you deserted her, now your son comes back he's got problems. Where were you when he was growing up, until he was eight years old?


Howe: May we continue?


Rivers: How dare you. Please continue, but don't you dare call me that. Son of a bitch.


Purves: Right Darcus, can we just say you don't think Joan is a racist and then perhaps we can move on?


Howe: I don't know whether she is a racist or not. I don't care.


Rivers: You just said the word black offends me. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.


Howe: Normally I wouldn't ever meet you in my life.


Rivers: No normally would I meet you, nor would I choose to meet you.


Howe: No she's not a racist.


Rivers: OK please continue about your stupid film.


Purves: Right can we talk about your tour Joan?


Rivers: Talk about anything you want.

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Re: Joan Rivers Slaps Down Darcus Howe (Racist)

Postby TheIndependent on 08/06/08, 12:52 am

From George Carlin:

There's a different group to get pissed off at you in this country for everything your not supposed to say. Can't say african american, Boogie, Jig, Jigaboo, Skinhead, Moolimoolinyon, Schvatzit, Junglebunny. Greaser, Greaseball, Dago, Guinea, Whop, Ginzo, Kike, Zebe, Heed, Yid, Mocky, Himie, Mick, Donkey, Turkey, Limey, Frog. Zip, Zipperhead, Squarehead, Crout, Hiney, Jerry, Hun, Slope, Slopehead, Chink, Gook.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of those words in and of themselves. Their only words. It's the context that counts. It's the user. It's the intention behind the words that makes them good or bad. The words are completely neutral. The words are innocent. I get tired of people talking about bad words and bad language. Bullshit! It's the context that makes them good or bad. The context. That makes them good or bad.

For instance, you take the word "african american." There is absolutely nothing wrong with the n word "african american" in and of itself. It's the racist ahole who's using it that you ought to be concerned about. We don't mind when Richard Pryer or Eddie Murphy say it. Why? Because we know their not racist. Their african american! Context. Context. We don't mind their context because we know their black. Hey, I know I'm whitey, the blue-eyed devil, paddy-o, fay gray boy, honkey, mother-frig myself. Don't bother my ass. Their only words. You can't be afraid of words that speak the truth, even if it's an unpleasant truth, like the fact that there's a bigot and a racist in every living room on every street corner in this country.


I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation. For some reason, it just keeps getting worse.


I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap. In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue.

Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car. Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder. I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha

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