One of the most dramatic changes in American life in the years since World War II involves the way we raise our children.
We used to do it ourselves. Now, convinced we have better things to do, many of us leave the job to others.
Encouraging this flight from parenthood, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, has proposed what he calls his "Zero to Five" plan. It is a collection of programs aimed at getting the government involved in the raising of your children from the moment they are born. This is clearly Collective Marxism that Barak wants in the United States of America
Barak wants his Marxist ideology to be indoctrinated in your children in the most formative years.
"The first part of my plan focuses on providing quality affordable early childhood education to every child in America," Obama said in a November speech. "As president, I will launch a Children's First Agenda that provides care, learning and support to families with children ages zero to five."  To indoctrinate your children to his Socialist Marxism ideology.
"We'll create Early Learning Grants to help states create a system of high-quality early care and education for all young children and their families," he said. "And we'll help more working parents find a safe, affordable place to leave their children during the day by improving the educational quality of our childcare programs and increasing the childcare tax credit."
This week, Obama upped his ante by vowing to "double funding for after-school programs that help children learn and give parents relief."
Obama, of course, will also continue to defend your "right" to hire a physician to kill your child in utero so you won't have to raise the child at all.
The hard evidence that most American parents now leave at least some of the nurturing of even their youngest children to others has been gathered by the U.S. Department of Labor.
An excellent summary of government data on this issue can be found in "Trends in Labor Force Participation of Married Mothers and Infants," a study by Bureau of Labor Statistics economists Sharon R. Cohany and Emy Sok that was published last year.
"In 1948, only about 17 percent of married mothers were in the labor force," wrote Cohany and Sok. "By 1995, their labor force participation rate had reached 70 percent."
Note that these are "married mothers" -- not single moms, who because of illegitimacy, divorce or a husband's death are forced to work outside the home.
In fact, as of 2005 (the latest year cited by Cohany and Sok), more than 53 percent of married American women with infants (babies less than 1 year old) worked outside the home.
Some of the data points to the conclusion that this phenomenon is driven as much by changes in our values as in changes in our economy.
For example, relative poverty was clearly not the most powerful factor driving married mothers of infants to work outside the home. In fact, those whose husbands earned an income ranking in the lowest 20 percent were the least likely to go to work, Cohany and Sok discovered, while those whose husbands earned an income that ranked in the highest 20 percent were the second least likely to work.
Less than half of these relatively poor and relatively rich mothers with infants worked.
Yet, of the married mothers with infants whose husbands earned an income in the middle 20 percent, 64.4 percent worked outside the home.
Similarly, Cohany and Sok discovered: "The more children a woman has, the less likely she is to be in the labor force." Almost 60 percent of married mothers with infants who had only one child worked. Only 36.6 percent of those who had five or more children worked.
In America today, the rarer child makes a scarcer mom.
It is also telling that while 58.5 percent of native-born mothers with infants worked outside the home, only 35 percent of immigrant mothers with infants did.
Some force in our culture that was not as strong in 1948 as it is today is devaluing traditional family life and the stay-at-home mom.
But this force could be waning. "After a lengthy and dramatic advance," concluded Cohany and Sok, "labor force participation rates for married mothers of infants peaked in 1997 and have been relatively stable since 2000."
Through his plans to increase government funding and control of the rearing of children ages "zero to five," Barack Obama would increase, rather than decrease, the force that drives mothers of infants to leave them in someone else's care. He would also cause a wholly unjust transfer of wealth.
Old-fashioned moms and dads who insist on caring for their own pre-school children will pay for -- but gain no benefit from -- programs that put the government in the business of caring for children whose moms and dads would both rather work outside the home than work raising a child.  So that more children can be indoctrinated to Barak's Marxism ideology.

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They can have my children when they pry them from my cold, dead hands!  

The government will not indoctrinate my children.

How's this for scary?:

Part of Obama's proposed massive "Youth Service Movement"

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Klingt das vertraut? (That's German for, "Sound familiar?")

Did I mention that this "Service" would be compulsory?



Obama is now actually talking about creating the Nazi SS ! Check out the history of the SS if you doubt. An ARMY of young communist ideologues swearing fealty directly to Obama.

Sieg Heil, mein Messiah.

Ok, following the historical model, how far will BHO take this. The Waffen SS officer corps was predominantly Austrian. (Hitler was Austrian.) SS unit commanders answered to no one outside the SS chain of command. And, the SS recruited new units from conquered territories.

Also, the Einsatzgruppen were SS staffed and controlled.

Ok I just freaked myself out. Eyas we better start looking over our shoulder.

Could this be part of some plan to bring about the CDNC Goals?

“So when I'm President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you'll have done 17 weeks of service.

““We'll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we'll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities. At the community level, we'll develop public-private partnerships so students can serve more outside the classroom.” Senator Obama

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/ ... YwODVjYWQ=  by Jim Geraghty Monday July 7 2008

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Senator Obama

Obama Outlines Plans for National Service by John McCormick  July 2, 2008 Chicago Tribunehttp://bulletin.aarp.org/states/ ... rvice.html

Information about some of the foundations for Hitler Youth Organization found at http://www.historycooperative.org/journ ... gaard.html

After reading several online sites to refresh my memory about the history of Nazi Germany and Hitler and the SS as well as Hitler Youth I do have to wonder. Combine this with Senator’s Obama’s new zeal for faith-based programs and we have a perfect atmosphere for youth indoctrination.
.     The Nazi’s did exactly this starting in about 1932. Starting with boys and girls at the age of 10 and using the pre-existing Protestant and Catholic Church organizations they promoted several ideologies. Of course one was anti-Semitism, the transfer of parental control to the government and tattle–tailing, spying and reporting of non-conformists. Hitler’s people found that this did not give them enough control and moved the bulk of efforts into the school system. Instead of the youth going home to parents and maybe coming back to the church for group programs it was better to just continue directly after school.
                By 1936 the youth organization was 6 million. It was much easier to control the students with the ‘help’ of paid teachers. It continued to build and to remove as much free time for students and parental time with their children as they expanded programs into weekend activities and camps complete with the singing of selected songs, fitness programs and controlled political discussion. The eventual banning all other youth organizations happen by the early 1940’s and mandatory service of the youth on construction projects, farms and the like supervised by specific leaders allowed long term control with no ‘outside’ influence. With the exception of several ‘gangs’ of youths who risked arrest, incarceration on work farms and actually being put to death the government had a well-trained, single minded and subservient sector of the population under control.
               Integration and synchronization of a number of programs helped bring about an entire generation of new loyal followers. Some of these youth starting at the age of 16 were pressed in active military duty as Hitler lost more and more of his forces.
              Howard Dean and John Kerry have both put forth this same general idea in their previous election campaigns. President Bush has always advocated faith-based charity type programs and Senator McCain has endorsed faith-based community programs as well as increased knowledge of volunteer military careers but I haven’t found anything about his specific plans.

Obama’s Plan

Integrate Service into Learning

Expand Service-Learning in Our Nation's Schools: Obama will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year. He will develop national guidelines for service- learning and will give schools better tools both to develop programs and to document student experience. Green Job Corps: Obama will create an energy-focused youth jobs program to provide disadvantaged youth with service opportunities weatherizing buildings and getting practical experience in fast-growing career fields.

Expand YouthBuild Program: Obama will expand the YouthBuild program, which gives disadvantaged young people the chance to complete their high school education, learn valuable skills and build affordable housing in their communities. He will grow the program so that 50,000 low-income young people a year a chance to learn construction job skills and complete high school.

Require 100 Hours of Service in College: Obama will establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.

Promote College Serve-Study: Obama will ensure that at least 25 percent of College Work-Study funds are used to support public service opportunities instead of jobs in dining halls and libraries.

INVEST IN THE NONPROFIT SECTOR
Social Investment Fund Network: Obama will create a Social Investment Fund Network to use federal seed money to leverage private sector funding to improve local innovation, test the impact of new ideas and expand successful programs to scale.

Social Entrepreneurship Agency for Nonprofits: Barack Obama will a create an agency within the Corporation for National and Community Service dedicated to building the capacity and effectiveness of the nonprofit sector.

Portion of The Issue page on Obama’s Website
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/service/

bedbug wrote:Ok, following the historical model, how far will BHO take this. The Waffen SS officer corps was predominantly Austrian. (Hitler was Austrian.) SS unit commanders answered to no one outside the SS chain of command. And, the SS recruited new units from conquered territories.

Also, the Einsatzgruppen were SS staffed and controlled.

Ok I just freaked myself out. Eyas we better start looking over our shoulder.

I'm picturing the youth vote.  Young, confused, liberal/anarchist punks loyal to the Obamessiah and given guns to make sure that no one acts like a racist-bigot-sexist-homophobe-republican-warmonger-hatemonger- conservative.

I'm just waiting for the Night of the Long Knives sometime in 2009.

watcher wrote: Could this be part of some plan to bring about the CDNC Goals?

Without any doubt whatsoever.

watcher wrote:
After reading several online sites to refresh my memory about the history of Nazi Germany and Hitler and the SS as well as Hitler Youth I do have to wonder. Combine this with Senator’s Obama’s new zeal for faith-based programs and we have a perfect atmosphere for youth indoctrination.
.     The Nazi’s did exactly this starting in about 1932. Starting with boys and girls at the age of 10 and using the pre-existing Protestant and Catholic Church organizations they promoted several ideologies. Of course one was anti-Semitism, the transfer of parental control to the government and tattle–tailing, spying and reporting of non-conformists. Hitler’s people found that this did not give them enough control and moved the bulk of efforts into the school system. Instead of the youth going home to parents and maybe coming back to the church for group programs it was better to just continue directly after school.
                By 1936 the youth organization was 6 million. It was much easier to control the students with the ‘help’ of paid teachers. It continued to build and to remove as much free time for students and parental time with their children as they expanded programs into weekend activities and camps complete with the singing of selected songs, fitness programs and controlled political discussion. The eventual banning all other youth organizations happen by the early 1940’s and mandatory service of the youth on construction projects, farms and the like supervised by specific leaders allowed long term control with no ‘outside’ influence. With the exception of several ‘gangs’ of youths who risked arrest, incarceration on work farms and actually being put to death the government had a well-trained, single minded and subservient sector of the population under control.
               Integration and synchronization of a number of programs helped bring about an entire generation of new loyal followers. Some of these youth starting at the age of 16 were pressed in active military duty as Hitler lost more and more of his forces.
              

All kidding aside, it really is scary (maybe not surprising) to witness the parallels between America 2008 and the Obama "movement" and 1930's Germany and the National Socialists.

Hitler did, intentionally, try to build the perception of himself as messiah -- not a religious messiah, but a cultural one.  Obamessiah fervor seems to have cooled somewhat lately, but just you wait for the Democrat Convention in Denver.

This is the kind of semi-conspiratorial, paranoid-seeming, opinion that I would never have had (much less shared) five or six years ago -- but events proceed apace, & I find it eerie.

Eyas,
You are not the only one to feel like there is some dark dank shadow that is closing in around us. Is this really possible in America?

I find me and myself having this daily ongoing argument.  

“No way, this is the United States. We have the Constitution, the right of free speech and all of that Bill of Rights stuff.”

“Yes it is possible. Didn’t you just hear Maxine Waters in that Senate hearing talking about nationalizing the oil companies? How about Gyorgy Soros, Dean, Pelosi and Obama?”

“No. This can’t be what is happening. You are not reading it right. That can’t be what is happening. This country has fought for the right of freedom all over the world.”

“Yes they could. How do think it happened in other places. Remember your history. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro. Look at Chavez and he has happen just in the past couple of years.”

“No. Impossible. I just can’t believe it. The American people won’t stand for it.”

“Yes they would, at first. They have been. Make enough people hungry. Make enough people poor. Make enough people stupid. Make promises to the poor and hungry.”

“I can’t go around saying the commies are coming. I’ll sound like a nut.”

“No you won’t. History is on your side.”

“I don’t know about this?”
“Yes you do!”
“No, this is just another conspiracy theory!”
“Maybe!”
“What should I do?”
“Oh my goodness!”
“No way!”
“Um What if I’m right?”
“What if you’re wrong?”
“How do you fight this?”
“Do what your family has always done.”
“Get the shotgun and bury the silver?”
“No speak up.”
“They found the silver!”
“Get involved.”
“Talk is cheap.”
“Write.”
“That leaves a paper trail!”
“Your point!”
“It’s scary!”
“Yes it is.”
“So what do I do?”

I believe I see what is going on. I keep reading, watching and listening. Something is going to happen in the near future. Something that will remove that last bit of doubt. My instincts tell me that and they have always served me well. Then I will know for sure. Then I will know what to do.

Patience has never been one of my better virtues.

watcher wrote:“What should I do?”
“Oh my goodness!”
“No way!”
“Um What if I’m right?”
“What if you’re wrong?”
“How do you fight this?”
“Do what your family has always done.”
“Get the shotgun and bury the silver?”
“No speak up.”
“They found the silver!”

  LMAO

watcher wrote:“I can’t go around saying the commies are coming. I’ll sound like a nut.”

Exactly how I feel.  I say this stuff on this forum; but I'm more careful about who I say it to in person.

I DO get looks as if I had just donned a tin-foil hat.  But then after talking with people I realize that they're just not paying attention to what's going on in this country.  Most folks are just too busy with work and family, or too busy watching American Idol.

watcher wrote:I believe I see what is going on. I keep reading, watching and listening. Something is going to happen in the near future. Something that will remove that last bit of doubt. My instincts tell me that and they have always served me well. Then I will know for sure. Then I will know what to do.
  

I don't usually listen to Hannity much anymore, but SoldiersMum just told me that on his show yesterday, he did "man on the street" interviews and most people "want nationalized medicine and most of them said they were voting for Obama but couldn't say why."

At the current time, there just aren't enough people like you and me, and others on this forum, who are cognizant of the trend in this country.  Until more "average" Americans wake up to what is going on, I will continue to be scared -- and continue to sound like a conspiracy kook to most people.

As several people here routinely demonstrate, Americans have lost the ability to reason critically.  The most ironic example of that was when someone here quoted the Tuskegee Experiment as a reason why we should have government run health care!  Any rational person would have to conclude that the Tuskegee Experiment is exactly the reason we should not have government run anything!  

The average person on the street would tell you that military health care for our wounded veterans is disgraceful and should be improved.  Then the same person will turn around and tell you they want the government to provide them with "free" health care!  Again, a person able to think critically would say, "enough of government-run health care.  I won't be able to live with it."  

I have used the phrase "cognitive dissonance" before.  These are prime examples of the term but those who are suffering from "cognitive dissonance" can't reason well enough to know they suffer from the problem.