I listened to the whole show today, Rush was on top of his game today,  and Rush said the GOP is now calling him a Stalinist because he doesn't support McCain. This is really pathetic, they must understand that by calling Rush a Stalinist it is them who are the totalitarians, what they did was a threat, no if's, and's or but's about it. I'm really starting to dislike the GOP leadership. McCain was going to bolt the party on a few occasions, he was seriously thinking about being Kerry's running mate. What the hell is up in GOP land? Does MCCain have the goods on the GOP along with his favorite pals, the Drive By's? Is the GOP so corrupt  to push this clown on us? Something really stinks in the GOP party and it ain't Rush or the conservative base.

The GOP is, in essense, a liberal party with some old-fashioned friends they tolerate. They knew conservatives needed a home, and they couldn't pull enough voters away from the Democrats to compete, so they invented the "big tent" doctrine.

Conservatives have stuck around because, as you correctly point out, we have nowhere else to go. Thus we've been loyal to the GOP and have gotten almost nothing in return. With each passing election they try to phase out our beliefs while expecting us to stay in the party.

I also heard Rush today when he played that quote. And I agree, they are the ones having a temper tantrum - because they can no longer frighten us into voting. They are pulling out all the stops from name calling to scare tactics to using the troops as leverage. It's discusting.

More and more conservatives are starting to realize the GOP is the wrong party.

I think Rush is being set up for the Fairness Doctrine which McCain will surely sign if he gets the chance. I'm going to change my party registration from GOP to Indpendent when I get a chance. Enough is enough!

TheIndependent wrote: I'm really starting to dislike the GOP leadership.

The GOP will die if we let it.  There are many die-hard Republicans who are now SUPPORTERS of McCain.  Neither they, nor the GOP, can long exist without support from conservatives.  Without conservatives, and eschewing cnservative principles; what will the GOP be based on?  It will become (has already become) a house of cards -- easily blown down.  How can a political party continue to exist with literally ZERO ideological principles upon which it is based.  If all conservatives finally recognize their duty to abandon the Republican party and Republican politicians, the party will disintegrate overnight.  
   Of course, if such a disintegration is allowed, those who precipitated it (in order to prolong their own influence and power) will attempt to immediately co-opt any new party which replaces the Republican party.  They must be pre-emptively identified and not allowed entry into/involvement in a new "conservative" party.
   Conservatism is not dead -- and can never die.  The Republican party, however, is already dead -- it just doesn't realize it yet.  The party apparatchik is too stupid and megalomaniacal to recognize its own death and decently and respectfully lie down in the grave it has dug for itself.
   By the way, those who call themselves "conservatives" and yet abandon ALL conservative principles to vote for McCain are the last vestiges of this "UNDEAD" party.  -- I like that analogy,  they are ghoulishly, and vampirically maintaining their life of "undeath" by sucking the souls of true conservatives.

I name them the NOSFERATU Party.

TheIndependent wrote: Is the GOP so corrupt  to push this clown on us? Something really stinks in the GOP party and it ain't Rush or the conservative base.

I've said it before, & I'll say it again now.  I am inherently dismissive of conspiracy theories.  Throughout my life, I have found that conspiracies almost never exist; and the more profound the conspiracy, the less likely it is to be true.
I do not like conspiracy theories.  I have never, until recently, bought into one.  Furthermore, I REALLY do not like the fact that I HAVE, in fact, bought into one.  I am speaking of the Globalist agenda, the NAU, the SPP, and the CFR's influence on (and participation by) powerful politicians in both parties.

Now, I'm about to buy into a second conspiracy theory -- someone make me a tin-foil hat & send it to me, I'm no good at metallic origami.

I said elsewhere on this forum that, about a year ago, I told my Mother that the election would be between Clinton and McCain.  I was, at that point, being facetious and cynical.  I did not honestly believe that McCain could win the Republican nomination, given the abhorrence of his Amnesty program expressed (seemingly) by all Americans.

Here's the second conspiracy that I'm buying into:
The results of the Republican Primaries have somehow been "rigged" by political powers beyond my knowledge or understanding.
See, this is what bugs me about conspiracy theories.  They're long on theory, and short on evidence of conspiracy.
Who could manage rigging an entire Party's primary elections?  How could it be done?

I just don't know.

What I DO know is the following:
McCain had zero support in polls prior to the first primaries in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wyoming.  Suddenly, and for no apparent reason, McCain came in third in Iowa.
In nearly a year's worth of polling prior to the primaries, McCain beat NO ONE except Ron Paul.  I don't generally believe poll results; however, in this case, the results were obtained time & time again by a myriad of different polling agencies.  Ron Paul was last, followed by McCain.
That is, until the results of Primaries actually started rolling in.
Five days after the Iowa Primary, McCain WON the New Hampshire Primary. How? Why?

Furthermore, I find the withdrawals from the race to be suspicious in Every case. Why did Giuliani do what he did?  Was it stupidity, or intentional suicide? Why did reports of Duncan Hunter's withdrawal from the race make news as a fait accompli two weeks before he actually withdrew from the race?  Why did Thompson pull out when he did?  Why, why, why, did Romney withdraw when it was still possible for him to win the nomination? -- as opposed to Huckabee who, mathematically, CANNOT win, yet remains in the race; or Ron Paul who never had a chance & yet remains in the race to this day.

Why did still viable candidates withdraw?  From where did the support for McCain come?

In short, How did we get into this mess?

Again, I don't like to be a conspiracy kook; and in this case I have no facts or evidence to support this conspiracy.

But I tell you this: As far as McCain's unwarranted recent success is concerned -- I SMELL A RAT!

I don't know the size, shape, color, or origin of this RAT; nevertheless, I SMELL A RAT!





Don't you?

There were four things that led to McCain taking the nod.

-The primary system stacked to favor liberal states first, and the notion of "open" primaries in which anyone can vote. Thus using liberal influence to force conservatives out of the race before most Republicans could vote.

-The conservative side of things being chaotic. Romney painted a flip-flopper from the beginning. Lesser known guys like Hunter and Tancredo given no platform to reach out to voters. Thompson enters the race, draws conservative support, and mysteriously vanishes after 90 days - just long enough to keep conservatives from gelling around anyone else.

-Republican governors endorsing McCain and helping him reach local voters.

-West Virginia-type deals with Huckabee to overcome Romney.



If you look back over the chronology of events, it does indeed look like they helped McCain stage a coup.


I was listening to Jason Lewis' show a few weeks back. He said on air that he had a friend who attended a meeting of conservatives in Washington to form a plan to beat McCain. The GOP leadership came into the room and told them all that McCain was the nomimee and they were wasting their time.

I don't generally believe in conspiracy theories either, but this one is starting to add up.

You may not believe in conspiracies but I have played a part in a few of them. People or groups with absolute power over other people often use deception or subversives to make sure of an outcome. I believe our government has mastered the conspiracy so well  that 99.9% of the people couldn't figure out what was going on if someone told them 75% of how they were being decieved.

Bush and the RNC probably made a deal with McCain to keep him from flipping that he would get all the support he needed for the 2008 election, that's my real take on McCain. He was one of the many reasons why the GOP got trounced in 06, no one can have faith in a party at war itself.

Frankly, if there is an "undead" or "Nosferatu" running around it would be John McCain.  

How he has become the presumptive nominee is mind boggling.  The one thing this season has demonstrated is that polls are utterly meaningless.  So many polls have been so wrong about so many things that my head spins.  

Clearly, the establishment of the GOP has been pushing McCain as hard as they can.  Romney left the race way too early.  Other conservative candidates never emerged or never really ran.  Why was this in a party with lots of conservatives.  What role, if any, did the "establishment" play in discouraging their campaigns?  

GOP primaries are made "open" or "closed" by the party and "open" primaries do indeed benefit the "GOP establishment" and not the base of the party.  Why are so many GOP primaries now "open," early and winner-take-all?  These three factors would clearly favor the "establishment" candidate.  

I don't know if you can call the GOP establishment acting to nominate one of their own a conspiracy though.  I think they have been pretty open about it.  They control the party and can manipulate certain events to influence outcomes and have obviously exerted much effort to do so.  

Ironically, at the same time, the Democrat party establishment, the Clintons, have NOT been able to manipulate events sufficiently to nominate HRC.  Again, my head spins.

Frankly, I don't think of the liberal Republican establishment as being that effective to be able to do what the Clintons could not do.  But, perhaps we underestimate them sometimes.  But, if even 5 or 10% of Rush's audience sits out this election, and GOP voters turn out in such low numbers as they have in the primaries, McCain will be lucky to get 30 million votes.

People had better not stay home.  They stayed home in 2006 and look what we have now...the Pelosi/Reid Show.  We need EVERYONE to go to the polls.  If they cannot hold their nose and vote for McCain, then at least they need to vote for Conservatives running for Congress.  We need to take back Congress so that no matter who wins the Presidency, we will have the ability to stop the socialism, globalism and Mexican takeover.

This is what we will get more of if Obama is Prez.  He is rated the #1 liberal in the Senate.  This is due to come up for a vote in the Senate tomorrow.

S2433, Global Poverty Act of 2007

A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign polity objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal by reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 amd 2015, who lives on less than $1 per day.

Sponsor:  Sen Barack Obama



Requires the U.S. to pay the UN .07% of our GDP to fight world poverty and puts forth the idea of a global tax run by the UN on fossil fuels.  

I fully understand the importance of Congress and plan to vote for all positions I can come November.

When you look at the big picture everything is in place to subvert the will of the people. Electronic voting is end of 'The People' chosing candidates or voting on multi billion dollar bond issues like we have in California.

I remember looking at the results of the 2004 CA election and seeing major discrepencies on vote totals for the ballot initiatives and knew right than that there was something wrong. Why would so many people not vote for some of the initiatives over others?  IT just stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

They keep telling us immigration is not an issue but I don't know anyone that thinks it isn't and how about the losses of GOP politicians who were anti immigrant in a place like Arizona ?  It doesn't add up folks, also in Arizona the homo marriage bill failed, anyone who has driven through Arizona knows it is a red necky type of state, there is no way they vote no to ban gay marriage.

Conspiracy? What conspiracy  .....

If they don't get their way we could always have a major terror attack ...