The real reason so many on the left stick to the global warming theory is that they are trying to inhibit free enterprise from doing what it has to do to: pollute.  That's what this ecological argument is really about: the government trying to hamper industry by using climate change as an excuse.  There is no climate change as we all agree and, thus, there is no reason to stop polluting, certainly not in these economic times.  

Industry needs to be free to dispense its by-products into the atmosphere and earth without limit as dictated by the market.  That is the system that works.  Let the money talk.  

What a dumb post. Of course, in my opinion. Let's get some more pollution everywhere. While we are at it, let's litter the highways all we can. And dump chemicals and poisons  into our lakes and rivers. And go back to letting everyone smoke inside a building. Even smoke at the desk next to you.

coloredcon wrote:The real reason so many on the left stick to the global warming theory is that they are trying to inhibit free enterprise from doing what it has to do to: pollute.  That's what this ecological argument is really about: the government trying to hamper industry by using climate change as an excuse.  There is no climate change as we all agree and, thus, there is no reason to stop polluting, certainly not in these economic times.  

Industry needs to be free to dispense its by-products into the atmosphere and earth without limit as dictated by the market.  That is the system that works.  Let the money talk.  

OK this is BS. Responsibility is still called for and no one is calling for this kind of BS. There is no scientific debate on whether or not pollution is a problem. We cannot shirk our responsibilities on addressing pollution.

A1 good to see you calling BS on this one.

Agreed, this is BS - if not RINO.

The more I think about it...I think we have had our leg pulled a little here. Surely he was not serious.

I'm not pulling anyone's leg.  What I'm hearing here is that the difference between the conservative POV and the liberal POV is pure symantics!  Some of the members of this forum are claiming, just like the left, that dumping pollutants into the atmosphere will have some terrible future consequence.  The only quibble they have is over what that consequence will be!  They don't believe in global warming but they do believe in acid rain and other atmospheric issues?!!  Why?   Why believe in one and not the other when they are born of the same conjecture!!!  

What is the point of arguing against global warming when accepting pollution as a reality yields the same outcome: government regulation?  It's as though some conservatives simply don't want to agree with left at any cost, so they change the packaging of the issue from global warming to pollution.  It's ridiculous, neither has been conclusively proven.  Until they are: spend, use and pollute.

Coloredcon,

Your a real slow person aren't you? I am not arguing about pollution. I refuse to let government manage anything. That's all. Government could not solve a problem if the problem came with a solution naturally. They would screw it up some how.

If your life is broken, if your car is broken, if your government is broken (which it is), fix it!  

A1Kj1: you don't seriously believe team USA could go forward without massive organization?  In the 1990's, working with Clinton, a Republican congress balanced the budget and America boomed.  The right may not have liked Clinton and the left may not have liked congress, yet that was a winning team.  But America voted against success - a version of treason in a certain sense - and, in return,  got massive failure.  (And abortions rose dramatically in number.)

We waved flag-burning, abortion and god at you and, sure enough, you forget how to add.  In India, they wave dead cows at your type to get them to vote against they own interests.  It works every time.  

Bottom line: No government equals chaos.  Fixing government means you'd have to stand-up to the corporations and special interests that you let purchase that government.   That will never happen.  You'll take the bate every time.  And you'll blame management from now until forever no matter what goes right or wrong: that's what the workers do.