Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby Lazarus on 06/17/07, 9:59 pm

Are the illegal immigrants really doing jobs that Americans will not do? Or, are they simply doing those jobs for a lot less money? What does Rush say on this topic?
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby admin on 06/17/07, 11:22 pm

I think that's a really bad argument, but one that gets perpetuated in the media.

We managed to survive on teen labor just fine prior to the influx of spanish immigrants.  These jobs are not glamorous, but they build character.  I worked at Subway, a Pizza Shop, Cutting Grass, etc. when I grew up and it taught me the value of hard work and a dollar.  I never once through the jobs were 'beneath' me.  I knew I needed to work, and these were the kinds of jobs kids got.

They may be doing these jobs for less money, but it's against the law!  Maybe we need to lower the minimum wage so our teens can compete against the illegals for these low paying jobs....
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby Realdebate on 06/19/07, 10:54 am

Yes on both counts.  Many Mexicans are doing trade work, construction jobs that are a tradionally union arena.  Migrant fram workers are I think the area that Americans do not want the work.

Look at New Orleans, immigrants streamed there to do cleanup and contrsution jobs, well paying jobs that the lazy residents did not want.
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby JSPJ on 06/25/07, 12:20 pm

I don't think illigals are doing the job cheaper any more.
They are getting just as much as an american would get for the same job.

The employers don't have to pay taxes or insurance on them is what i think is the encetive for the employers.

I just saw a report on the news about how Teens are having a hard time getting summer jobs this year.

why is congress going against the majority of americans.  don't they know in the long run they are going to pay with thier political careers.
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby conservanation on 06/25/07, 12:51 pm

Wait till the unions get a hold of these immigrants, we'll have to import millions more low paid workers to do the jobs unionized immigrants won't do.
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby Realdebate on 06/25/07, 2:42 pm

As long ax theya re paying their dues the unions will not mind.
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby Scortch on 07/20/07, 9:49 am

I've worked picking produce and in cornfields, in the backroom of a meat market, on loading docks and trimming Christmas trees...my son now works under the table for a contractor shoveling asphalt.

As for the good jobs like waitressing, my daughter has been told they won't hire her until she turns 18, for liability reasons...something I never had to contend with when I was a teenager...so she works for a guy who makes wooden crafts, painting the things...another job I hear Americans just won't do!!
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby Waitress Polly on 10/05/07, 10:04 pm

1. Clean your own house.
2. Wash your own cars.
3. Mow your own lawns.
4. Don't hire the cheapest contractors. Find someone who can prove they keep up with worker's comp, and find out who their employees are. Tell them that you do NOT hire contractors who hire illegals.

Maybe this seems oversimplified, but those are things each of can do within our realm of control. It's what I do.
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Re: Effect of Illegal Aliens on USA Labor Pool

Postby erinnwood on 10/09/07, 7:15 am

In response to Waitress Polly's last post:
I don't feel that it is oversimplified at all, your explanation, that is. I feel that if everyone did this, we would be fine, but it has to be EVERYONE.  It can't just be the average Joe Schmo who wants his lawn mowed. It has to be the construction companies and the gardening businesses. My boyfriend used to live in Palm Desert, Ca, which is right outside of Palm Springs, and there, he said you could see first-hand the affects of illegal immigration workers. I used to think that the illegal aliens were at least doing the jobs that many Americans refuse to do (especially when they can make more money on welfare programs), and while I still think that explanation still holds some water, I think there are plenty of people who will do those jobs. I was just watching a show the other night... I think it was Ted Koppel of Discovery, maybe not though, anyway, they were talking about people who have done time in prison and are having a hard time finding work. I say give those jobs that Americans allegedly won't do to the ex-cons. Its not fun work, but then do they really deserve fun work. I am not one to think that their should be any adversity shown to criminals after they have served their time, but many people just don't want to hire someone with a record, and I don't blame them, if I owned a small business, I would do extensive background checks to protect my assets, and I would not hire someone who could possibly damage those assets. I feel as though I am ranting so let me put it in a nutshell. I am totally ok with immigration, I am not ok however with illegal immigration. If I had come over to America legally, I would find it to be a slap in the face to have someone get away with being over here illegally. It is a lot of work to become legalized, and immigrants who take the proper steps to come to this land should be commended. Immigrants who come here illegally are degrading our system and hurting those who did it the right way. Its just not right, no matter how you look at it.
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Smoking The Same OPM

Postby Dlanorrenrag on 10/17/07, 3:03 pm

Smoking The Same OPM:

Both Dems and Repubs are dedicated to destroying the U.S. by tearing down its borders in order to hasten a globally diversified pudding.
So, for choosing among them, WHY SHOULD I CARE?

Both are high on "OPM" (a kind of opium). Dems are high on voting to use Other People’s Money. Repubs are high on voting to use Other People’s Mojo — by reducing ordinary folks to compete globally for scraps.
Dems want to destroy America by destroying its borders, in the name of recruiting a majority of OPM voters.
Repubs want the same thing, in the name of reducing labor to servile wages.

Both are hell bent on destroying America.
Neither appreciates that we are not led along the path to freedom and enterprise by mere globalism, but by the U.S. — leading as the U.S.!
Not as a pudd’ified, global wanna be.

Bush’s brain should be recycled in hell — for moronic stubbornness against protecting our borders.

Rush, Laura, and Michele should unite in a vision for respecting and leading a "new OPM party" — in respect of Our Posterity’s Maker.
Because all we have now are different pipes for smoking the same OPM.
Both parties are smoking pipes calibrated for burying America under broken borders — as if that should make our world a better place.
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