Drilling in ANWR

Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby the Yeti on 07/03/08, 10:52 am

Drill now, Drill here, save 6 cents in 10 years.  
great idea for our struggling economy, today.

Why is it that i drove a 3 cylinder chevy sprint 15-20 years AGO that got 50 MPG.  what happened to our auto industry ??

The Republican "moon shot" is to drill a well in under 10 years?? WOW, i am impressed.  i think we need new leadership who will think BIG, not think Green ( as in profits for corporations) .

Thats why i am thinking of becoming a Libertarian. Bob Barr is looking better and better each day.
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby ultracon on 07/03/08, 11:32 am

I agree - removing our dependence on foreign oil isn't worth it if it can't be finished up by this afternoon.  
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby jokeness on 07/03/08, 11:37 am

ultracon wrote:I agree - removing our dependence on foreign oil isn't worth it if it can't be finished up by this afternoon.  

That long?  I mean replacing our current fossil fuel infrastructure, which has been around for 50-100 years depending on how you look at it, should only take 1-2 hours.
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby SoldiersMum on 07/03/08, 12:02 pm

the Yeti wrote:Drill now, Drill here, save 6 cents in 10 years.  
great idea for our struggling economy, today.

This must be a new talking point for the Communist Party DNC.  This is totally bogus.  Just the announcement that we are going to harvest our own oil will bring the price down and once we start working towards that goal, the price will really come down.   Prices are based on speculators guessing supply and demand for the future.  If they see we are going to drill and believe the supply will be increasing, the price per gallon of crude will come down.  In addition,  OPEC will dump supply on the market to drive the price down to discourage us from getting our own.

Why is it that i drove a 3 cylinder chevy sprint 15-20 years AGO that got 50 MPG.  what happened to our auto industry ??

I don't know..perhaps you are a smart cookie?  Frankly, I've never heard of a 3 cylinder car available that got 50 mpg.  I would say that if it was available back then, the reason it is not available now is because of safety regulations imposed by Congress.  Cars have to meet so many safety regulations now that they must be heavier and they must have catalytic converters and EPA equipment.  Congress has imposed the regulations and therefore that is what has happened to our auto industry.

The Republican "moon shot" is to drill a well in under 10 years?? WOW, i am impressed.  i think we need new leadership who will think BIG, not think Green ( as in profits for corporations) .

We are the United States of America.  If we set our goal at doing this, I have no doubt it will not take 10 years as the Communist Party DNC decided it would.  It would be more like 18 months providing the environmental wackos are prohibited from delaying things.   The Federal Government makes more than 3 times the amount of money on gasoline than the oil companies do.  None of this has anything to do with increasing the oil companies' coffers.  This has to do with keeping our economy from going into the tank.  This has to do with keeping food on your table.  This has to do with keeping truckers trucking.  This has to do with a FREE United States of America.

Apparently, you have decided the talking points of the Communist Party DNC suit your fancy.  Just exactly why are they imposing the Oil Embargo?  They are imposing it to kill our economy.  They are imposing it to get Barack Obama elected.  They are imposing it to turn us into a socialist/communist nation.

Don't you find it a little more than interesting that no one is going after China, Russia or India?  They use the fake Global Warming ideology for why we should not harvest what is rightfully our's and get us off our oil dependency but none of them are attacking China. Russia or India.  They want to bring down the leader of the free world.

We have more oil than all of the middle east combined.  Harvesting our own oil would enable us to pay off the national debt as well as get our economy back on track and give us the funds to develop alternative energies.  

There are no alternative energies to replace oil right now.  There is no distribution system in place right now.  There are no automobiles on the market which will accept the alternatives which have yet to be developed.
Why would you not want to make sure our nation stays healthy while we move into the future?  

Additionally, being dependent upon our enemies for the lifeblood of our economy is absolutely in complete opposition to National Security.  We must drill our own for our own security.

The Communist Party DNC Oil Embargo is absolutely ludicrous.

Thats why i am thinking of becoming a Libertarian. Bob Barr is looking better and better each day.


Bob Barr might be a good man; however, the platform of the Libertarian Party has alot to be desired.  Have you read it?  Do you want to allow illegal drugs to become legal?  Do you want us to become passifists?  
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby the Yeti on 07/03/08, 12:38 pm

SoldiersMum wrote:
the Yeti wrote:Drill now, Drill here, save 6 cents in 10 years.  
great idea for our struggling economy, today.

This must be a new talking point for the Communist Party DNC.  This is totally bogus. (That is from the Bush energy department, sorry )  Just the announcement that we are going to harvest our own oil will bring the price down and once we start working towards that goal, the price will really come down ( what is keepig them from drilling NOW?? what is keeping them from slant drilling inot the "postage stamp" sized parcel in Alaska ?? If ANWR is so full of oil and so tiny, why not drill NEXT TO IT. is the oil feild under it shaped like a cylinder?? why not drill in the other 50 million acres that they currently have rights too? ) .   Prices are based on speculators guessing supply and demand for the future.  If they see we are going to drill and believe the supply will be increasing, the price per gallon of crude will come down.  In addition,  OPEC will dump supply on the market to drive the price down to discourage us from getting our own.

Why not just end the specutlation in the oil market?? that ONE thing would cut the prices by 25% overnight. But that would mean that the investment lobby would be hurt. When did the congress include oil futures intot he speculation market?? 2001. what a coincidence.
Why is it that i drove a 3 cylinder chevy sprint 15-20 years AGO that got 50 MPG.  what happened to our auto industry ??

I don't know..perhaps you are a smart cookie?  Frankly, I've never heard of a 3 cylinder car available that got 50 mpg.
(Chevy Sprint Look it up)

I would say that if it was available back then, the reason it is not available now is because of safety regulations imposed by Congress (Ya think?? I think NOT) .  Cars have to meet so many safety regulations now that they must be heavier and they must have catalytic converters and EPA equipment.  Congress has imposed the regulations and therefore that is what has happened to our auto industry.

The Republican "moon shot" is to drill a well in under 10 years?? WOW, i am impressed.  i think we need new leadership who will think BIG, not think Green ( as in profits for corporations) .

We are the United States of America.  If we set our goal at doing this, I have no doubt it will not take 10 years as the Communist Party DNC decided it would.
(The Bush energy department, not the Communist DNC)
It would be more like 18 months providing the environmental wackos are prohibited from delaying things.   The Federal Government makes more than 3 times the amount of money on gasoline than the oil companies do.  None of this has anything to do with increasing the oil companies' coffers.  This has to do with keeping our economy from going into the tank.  This has to do with keeping food on your table.  This has to do with keeping truckers trucking.  This has to do with a FREE United States of America.  FREEEDOOOOMMM

Apparently, you have decided the talking points of the Communist Party DNC Bush energy department suit your fancy.  Just exactly why are they imposing the Oil Embargo?  They are imposing it to kill our economy.  They are imposing it to get Barack Obama elected.  They are imposing it to turn us into a socialist/communist nation.  Its the greed of the oil speculators and the gullibility of the electorate like YOU who let them get away with this.  If they drill in anwr and on the coasts. it will reduce the price per gallon by PENNIES. so says the BUSH energy deapartment.  it will ony line the pockets of the oil companies.  why not start with neding our oil EXPORTS. which are millions of barrels per DAY. i'd start there.

Don't you find it a little more than interesting that no one is going after China, Russia or India?  They use the fake Global Warming ideology for why we should not harvest what is rightfully our's and get us off our oil dependency but none of them are attacking China. Russia or India.  They want to bring down the leader of the free world.  getting US off foreign OIL has nothing to do with China, Russia, or India. it has to do with OUR FUTURE as a nation. we would end the support of rogue countries and get us back into the lead in a new form of energy. its called thinking outside the box. we used to do that. just asl neil Armstrong.

We have more oil than all of the middle east combined.  Harvesting our own oil would enable us to pay off the national debt as well as get our economy back on track and give us the funds to develop alternative energies.  

There are no alternative energies to replace oil right now.  There is no distribution system in place right now.  There are no automobiles on the market which will accept the alternatives which have yet to be developed.
Why would you not want to make sure our nation stays healthy while we move into the future?  

Additionally, being dependent upon our enemies for the lifeblood of our economy is absolutely in complete opposition to National Security.  We must drill our own for our own security.

The Communist Party DNC Oil Embargo is absolutely ludicrous.

Thats why i am thinking of becoming a Libertarian. Bob Barr is looking better and better each day.


Bob Barr might be a good man; however, the platform of the Libertarian Party has alot to be desired.  Have you read it?  Do you want to allow illegal drugs to become legal?  Do you want us to become passifists?  



Barr is looking better than John McBush and Obama. for sure.
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby Eyas on 07/03/08, 7:04 pm

Pictures of ANWR and the Proposed drilling site:




And, Just as a reminder:




Proposed Development site in Winter:



And Summer:
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A lush, natural paradise ... non?

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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby Eyas on 07/03/08, 7:45 pm

the Yeti wrote: ( what is keepig them from drilling NOW?? what is keeping them from slant drilling inot the "postage stamp" sized parcel in Alaska ?? If ANWR is so full of oil and so tiny, why not drill NEXT TO IT. is the oil feild under it shaped like a cylinder?? why not drill in the other 50 million acres that they currently have rights too? )  


I don't understand what you mean by this.

the Yeti wrote:Why not just end the specutlation in the oil market?? that ONE thing would cut the prices by 25% overnight. But that would mean that the investment lobby would be hurt. When did the congress include oil futures intot he speculation market?? 2001. what a coincidence.


What do you mean by either of these things?
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby bedbug on 07/04/08, 1:02 am

Yes please drill in ANWR. My V-8 4x4 is very thirsty.
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby the Yeti on 07/07/08, 10:02 am

Eyas wrote:
the Yeti wrote: ( what is keeping them from drilling NOW?? what is keeping them from slant drilling inot the "postage stamp" sized parcel in Alaska ?? If ANWR is so full of oil and so tiny, why not drill NEXT TO IT. is the oil feild under it shaped like a cylinder?? why not drill in the other 50 million acres that they currently have rights too? )  


I don't understand what you mean by this.

Well, your rhetoric is that ANWR is so tiny (the only part of alaska apparantly filled with oil)  in the midst of a giant area (called alaska)that the oil companies and YOU refuse to even look at. Why not drill NEXT TO ANWR or is the field below it that Small ??  a postage stamp sized field is all we are fighting over?? Why cannot they slant drill into the postage stamp sized oil field that is ONLY under the wildlife refuge?  this stance MAKES NO SENSE !!!

the Yeti wrote:
Why not just end the specutlation in the oil market?? that ONE thing would cut the prices by 25% overnight. But that would mean that the investment lobby would be hurt. When did the congress include oil futures intot he speculation market?? 2001. what a coincidence.


What do you mean by either of these things?


Pretty self explanatory on that one. end oil future speculation and the gas prices DROP 25%.  Is that hard to comprehend??
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Re: Drilling in ANWR

Postby the Yeti on 07/07/08, 10:07 am

Eyas wrote:Pictures of ANWR and the Proposed drilling site:


And, Just as a reminder:


A lush, natural paradise ... non?

This is how I envision the Garden of Eden; how 'bout you?


U.S. PresidentDwight D. Eisenhower thought it was .  Why did the totally controlled GOP run country NOT change the status when they HAD THE POWER ??
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