The ascent of an ultra liberal, bi-racial, inexperienced, junior senator to become an odds on favorite to sweep the upcoming Presidential election into the Democrat grasp is mind-bending. Even before the public had the faintest clue about this man's ideas or his character, he had mesmerized non-questioning hordes into thinking he is a political Messiah. He did this easily by being an above average orator and promising ''change''. As far as I know the meaning of the change he wants is going to spell bad news for our country. This shows how easily many Americans are conned by words they want to hear. Clinton did it for eight years and the people sucked it up. To the liberals he could do no wrong. Now this same crowd has turned against both Clintons and seems Hell bent to give their vote to someone they know nothing about because he has promised to pick the ''rich'' man's wallet and bestow unearned largesse upon those who don't want to work for it. These non-working supplicants are rapidly becoming a majority of our population because the idea of getting something for nothing is more attractive to many than having to go to work each day. Liberalism is in the ascendency because it promises the ephemeral ''freelunch'' , whereas conservatism says one must work for their reward. The problem now seems to be the public is getting used to entitlements and freebies and has lost their sense of pride in accomplishment.
This presages great peril for conservatism, because it is much easier to demand goodies from the government than it is to work for them.
Conservatives have become confused and mute, I doubt many elected Republicans could offer a good statement of conservative principles or give a speech on conservative values, certainly none have seemed inclined to do so. They have been beaten by the aggressive activism of the liberals. Conservatives have no public manifesto, they
have few aggressive advocacy groups, their leaders lack ideas and charisma, and they have been cowed by the
stridency of the left. Most are just trying to hang onto their jobs, which they may lose in November.
What is the bottom line? Wars are won by the best prepared, most passionate, most active, most willing to sacrifice, antagonist. It is clear to me that the conservatives don't have the game plan or the cojones to prevail in a fight, so get ready for a new administration, and perhaps a socialistic society. Passivity never wins a battle.

If it is not dying, who/what do you think will save it? Who speaks to a national audience for conservative ideals?
Who do we have that has the national ear?

uh...Rush??? Hannity??? Inghram??? Beck??? Malkin??? Pick one. There's plenty out there.

You did not ask which politician has a national audience. You asked who does. The next conservative leader who will lead the conservatives back to power will be someone like Sessions or Hunter or Thompson or Toomey or Santorum. He's out there somewhere. He will come just like Reagan did. We must keep the faith and not say Conservatism is dying. Otherwise, we should just stop paying any attention, stop posting or trying to be active against the Communist DNC and go play tiddly winks with manhole covers until the Government comes and relieves us of our property, tells us what cars to drive and how much we can drive them, what we can eat, that we can't smoke anywhere including our homes, and relieves us of our hard-earned money in favor of the greater good. I refuse to give up.

The conservative talk show hosts speak to conservative audiences. They have been saying the same thing since before Clinton and their talking did not prevent Clinton from serving two full terms. Waiting for a new Reagan is like waiting for a streetcar that never comes. The conservatives deified Reagan, but the liberals still hate him. While the talkers are talking, the liberals are doing. They are doing things like forming the ACLU, instituting political correctness, raising over double the amount of campaign money the Repubs have raised, passing laws preventing
drilling for oil on our own lands, capturing both houses of Congress, and dominating all media sources. It looks to me as if more than talk is needed. Talk has not prevented the takeover of our country by those incapable of running it. We need intelligent activism, a viable game plan to even make a showing against the libs. Just look at the smoothness and well oiled maneuvering by Obama. He is light years ahead of McCain in preparation, planning, media attention, and money raising. Who do you think will win this contest? It may be quite an embarrassment for the Repubs. Waiting for Reagan is futile, we need people with cojones who will get together and fight this takeover of America.

restan wrote:The conservative talk show hosts speak to conservative audiences. They have been saying the same thing since before Clinton and their talking did not prevent Clinton from serving two full terms. Waiting for a new Reagan is like waiting for a streetcar that never comes. The conservatives deified Reagan, but the liberals still hate him. While the talkers are talking, the liberals are doing. They are doing things like forming the ACLU, instituting political correctness, raising over double the amount of campaign money the Repubs have raised, passing laws preventing
drilling for oil on our own lands, capturing both houses of Congress, and dominating all media sources. It looks to me as if more than talk is needed. Talk has not prevented the takeover of our country by those incapable of running it. We need intelligent activism, a viable game plan to even make a showing against the libs. Just look at the smoothness and well oiled maneuvering by Obama. He is light years ahead of McCain in preparation, planning, media attention, and money raising. Who do you think will win this contest? It may be quite an embarrassment for the Repubs. Waiting for Reagan is futile, we need people with cojones who will get together and fight this takeover of America.

Step back and get a little perspective. First, conservative talk radio was very young when Clinton won in '92. In '96, the Republicans nominated a guaranteed loser. Bob Dole was doomed from the start, not at all inspiring. And, he was not a conservative.

Liberals have dominated the news media for decades. The media has been biased in favor of liberals for decades. The ACLU and PC are not new either.

There's no need to sit around and wait for a new Reagan. Conservatism is a grassroots movement. Always has been. Support conservatives wherever you can find them, local state and national. Support conservative causes like the Heritage Foundation.

Accept that this battle is lost, and it will be easier to continue fighting the war. I mean, regardless of who wins in November, conservatives lose this round.

We have survived LBJ, Carter and Clinton. The Dems held a majority in Congress for 40 years, prior to the '94 election, and we survived. Liberals have dominated the Judiciary for decades, and we are still here.

To answer your question, conservatism will not die as long as someone believes. If you accept the premise that conservatism is in trouble, you have already conceded to the opposition.

If conservatism is a grassroots movement, who is leading the movement?
Who is telling the public what conservatism stands for?
If conservatism has activists, where are they?
I see no groups of determined volunteers rallying to the cause of conservatism like I see on the liberal side.
Do you think this cultural war we are engaged in will be won by sitting on the hands, or waiting for a savior, or by letting the libs take over the entire government?
Do you see any conservative elected leaders capable of or willing to take on the libs?
Wars are won by the most aggressive, most prepared, most willing to die for the cause. Where are our warriors?

My personal opinion on this subject

The conservative talk show hosts speak to more than just conservative audiences.  They speak to all Americans. The problem is that all Americans are not listening.  Liberals are only one facet of the Democratic National Committee. It is the Communistic faction of the DNC that is the problem. This faction has used the passion of those Democrats that love this country but embrace what they feel is ‘social injustice’ as a means to further their march to Communism. They do not realize they are being used.
John McCain’s seeming lack of preparation, planning, media attention and money gathering compared to Obama’s smoothness and well-oiled maneuvering is also not the problem. The problem is not waiting for the next Conservative President. The problem is getting the Independents and Moderate Democrats to take an active part in this process and not allow a campaign slogan; speeches and advertisements tell them what the candidates stand for. They have to take the time to check the facts, read past history, understand how this country and the world work and then they will be able to see what exactly the DNC party, now stands for.  All is not at it seems.

In the last 30 years our Senate and Congress has slowly become loaded with representatives that have allowed the few to control the many until it is now the many that is controlling the few. This has happen under the terms of all of the past presidents. Some presidents have attempted to help this process and other presidents have attempted to curb it.
I have know several very good competent ‘American First’ strong conservative candidates on local and state levels who have gotten out of politics because they just could not stomach being part and parcel of what you have to endure to move up the ladder.

Politics as they say, is not for the faint of heart.

For a lot us we have a hard time bringing ourselves to even believing that there can be such subterfuge within our government. It is so much worse now than when Ronald Reagan was President.
The other part of the problem is that conservatives have hunkered down and understandably so, stood firm on some very key social, American security and constitutional issues. Unfortunately it is the standing against those same key social issues that keep the majority of Independent and Moderate Democrats from joining Republicans and Conservatives in fighting Communism. The focused is on the specifics and very few are looking at the whole picture.


There are also many problems within the ranks of Republican and Conservatives that keep them apart on some issues that add to the problem.
This countries decline is just not the fault of Conservatives and Republicans but is equally shared by the Independent and Moderate Democrats. Not all Democrats are looking to turn this country into a Communist Nation. Not all Conservatives are looking to turn this country in an extreme righteous Nation.

Until there is a true understanding of what is really happing and that everyone acknowledges that America has to come first and foremost before everything else, we will not be able to beat back Communism.

It will take an enormous effort of putting aside some very strong beliefs on both sides and it will not be until this Nation is then back on a solid footing that those particular beliefs can come back into play for serious and constructive discussions. Then there has to be an agreement that all can be comfortable for all to live with.

Without this understanding between these parties everything else will no longer matter because the only say that anyone will have is the Supreme Leaders.


The Communist DNC knows this. They use it everyday against us.

Conservative ideology is not dead. But, it has lost any influence it ever had in a major political party.

Conservatives are in a position that is in some ways similar to the situation it was in between 1974 to 1976. Nixon, perceived as a conservative by the left, but actually a fairly liberal Republican, destroyed the GOP and thus hurt conservatism and its influence on national politics. It took a Carter to destroy the credibility of the leftist Democrats.

Bush/McCain/Hastert have ruined the party again and destroyed its credibility with the people. I have a hard time believing that the nation will reject any alternative to the failed leadership offered by the GOP over the last 8 years. And Republicans have failed to lead in every area of policy save the "War on Terror" but they have failed to successfully market their successes in this one area.

Obama would be a laughable candidate in other years. He is the most vapid, inexperienced, Marxist candidates ever to run for office in America. But, the GOP has killed its credibility and McCain is central to the self-destruction of the GOP. Therefore he is perhaps the only candidate that the GOP could have offered that could lose to Obama. Even Giuliani, a cut and dried liberal, was not identified with GOP self-destruction because he had no national role over the past 8 years.

I am not sure that McCain cannot win but when you combine the MSM propagandizing for Obama, the amount of money Obama will raise, and McCain's absolutely abysmal campaign I cannot see how he will be able to wage an effective campaign. This is shaping up to be a very awful campaign. I have always thought George H. W. Bush ran the worst campaign of the 20th century followed closely by Bob Dole. I believe John McCain may manage to run an even worse campaign than both of them.

Paleocon, I agree with you. I assume the conservatives are content to sit idly by and let the libs pin the tail on the donkey. Certainly none have stepped forward to lead an assault upon any of the inanities and insanities visited upon us by the libs. The bottom line is--they want to keep their job, so to them appeasement of the majorty is the amswer. Since their constituents don't squeal too much when they support the other side- say on campaign financing, they go along to get along. The underlying problem in America is that we have at least two societies, each with different cultures, goals, ambitions and perhaps fundamental differences in their way their minds process data. We have allowed our culture to be undermined, weakened, and cheapened by those who hate religion, morality, judgementalism and tradition. The barbarians are at the gate and we no longer have the will or the leaders to fight the takeover. In order to have a peaceful coexistence with others, there has to be consensus on societal issues, or else the most aggressive will force their ideas down your throat. It is impossible to have consensus with radicalism, so in the absence of leadership, a game plan, and a clear statement of positions and rationale thereof, we are facing a winter of discontent.