Civil Rights

Re: Civil Rights

Postby Idriz Ajeti on 11/04/07, 5:35 pm

Response to DevilsAdvocate:

Well, I feel sorry for myself if I've made our gov. be suspicious on me. Damn it!  What can I say? Post 9/11 world is a totally different world. However, I'll not hesitate to say I do appreciate your help and I'll keep trying to live my life the best I can. What else am I to do?

Thanks again!

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Re: Civil Rights

Postby R John on 01/04/08, 11:44 am

Idriz, Welcome to The Land Of "Inalienable Right". We Celebrate It Here. Yet in The Totalitarian World It is A Death Sentence. Madison Distinguished Between "God", "Church", and "Government". He put God First. He also Distinguished between the "Individual" and "Society". Tyranny is not a good thing, be it from the Church or the State. People are not Property. Condoning the Buying and selling Them is an offense to Inalianable Right. So is a Death Sentence for Conversion to another Religion. Ideally here in The US We enjoy Equal Protection in Our Courts. Be You Believer or Not, Male or Female. There are Parts of Sharia Law that have No Place In Civil Society Idriz. Any attempt To Impose It on Us in The USA  is an offense, at the least. Enjoy Your Liberty Idriz, make the best of it.
Because we hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth,

"that religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator

and the manner of discharging it,

can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence."

The Religion then of every man must

be left to the conviction and conscience of every man;

and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate.

This right is in its nature an unalienable right.

It is unalienable,

because the opinions of men,

depending only on the evidence contemplated by their own minds

cannot follow the dictates of other men:

It is unalienable also,

because what is here a right towards men,

is a duty towards the Creator.

It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator

such homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to him.

This duty is precedent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation,

to the claims of Civil Society.

Before any man can be considerd as a member of Civil Society,

he must be considered as a subject of the Governour of the Universe:

And if a member of Civil Society,

do it with a saving of his allegiance to the Universal Sovereign.

We maintain therefore that in matters of Religion,

no man's right is abridged by the institution of Civil Society and that Religion

is wholly exempt from its cognizance.

True it is,

that no other rule exists, by which any question which may divide a Society,

can be ultimately determined, but the will of the majority;

but it is also true that the majority may trespass on the rights of the minority.  

- James Madison       June 20th, 1785     

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Re: Civil Rights

Postby Taylor on 01/08/08, 11:46 pm

I do feel sorry for you about this but like solidersmum said in the beginning your raising supicisions with us and the US Govt. I'd love for us to all live in peace but its kinda hard for them not too watch anyone like you (not saying you did anything bad or are) but if they aren't watching you they're being crtisized for not preventing another 9/11 they would say or something very similar so at this point no one wins its all really bad and if you might try and well not make them suspicious of you and maybe e-mail/write them a letter saying I just want regular citizenship and not to be bugged however this might also raise suspcion and I don't know what to do from there however if your just a piece of crap liberal scumbag whos trying to sneek terrorists into the country so yo can give them massages and get votes for your party then seirously go kill yourself thats all i have to say...
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