Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby bedbug on 05/24/08, 11:18 pm

Senator Barack Obama is emerging from the primary season a fatally flawed candidate for the Democrat presidential nomination. The disturbing vision that he and his associates, George Soros and MoveOn.org, share for Soviet America has been dragged into the light. Dick Morris (not popular with this forum, I know) has made an interesting observation. The party that cannot lose, in 2008, is about to nominate a flawed candidate that cannot win. I believe more than a few Democrat strategists share this view.

What to do about it? As Bob Beckle gleefully points out, superdelegates exist to nominate the candidate that is best for the party, not necessarily the one the voters choose, in a close race. (Strange rules for the "Democratic" Party.) So, by Democrat Party rules, superdelegates may choose to thwart BHO's nomination because his electability, in November, erodes with every new speech.

However, to do so would result in two things. MoveOn.org and friends, hard leftists, would scream stolen election, opening a political chasm which would hand the presidency to McCain. Second, BHO and the Justice Brothers would spank the DNC with the race card. Phony denials aside, we all see BHO playing the race card whenever an issue does not go his way. Superdelegates see this too.

I find it amusing that the party of modified PC, as it is now ok to "beat up" a girl, is now trapped by its own rhetoric. Nominate BHO and continue to be the good guys (feminist HRC supporters to the back of the bus) in white hats, who may lose the White House again. Or, nominate HRC and be branded war-loving racists, with a fair chance to control Capitol Hill and the White House.

Need proof of the superdelegate dilemma? Geraldine Ferraro said Obama would not be in his position if he were a white man. Immediately after, BHO, HRC and the DNC ran over her with the bus.

PC or victory? Tough choice for a Democrat.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby Eyas on 05/26/08, 10:31 pm

I absolutely LOOOVE this.

Whenever I hear Bill Clinton or some Hillary supporter bemoan the "unfairness" of being labelled a RACIST whenever they criticize "The Magic Negro" Obama, I just laugh, and laugh, and laugh, ... then I cry a little ..., but then I laugh, and laugh, and laugh some more.

Seeing libs hoisted on their own PC petard is just so .... so... well, ... delicious.

This perfect justice almost makes the rest of the insanity in the Democrat race worth it -- almost.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby Layla 27 on 06/05/08, 11:27 am

Im really not worried about the election at all. Im not voting for Captain JOHN MCCAMNESTY (RET.), a liberal, unless he picks an ULTRACON VP. But i heard RUMORS thhat he was going to pick ADOLPH GIULIANI as his Running mate. Im not voting for a PRO CHOICE LIBERAL.  RIDICULAS.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby phxcon on 06/05/08, 4:44 pm

Then you risk putting Hussein Obama into the WH. For me, its pretty simple. Under the dems, we have no chance. Under McCain, we have a slight chance. I will hold my nose and vote for that moke.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby SoldiersMum on 06/05/08, 5:08 pm

George Soros has selected his nominee.  He owns the Democrat Party and none of them would have the guts to turn Obama out at the convention.  He's their nominee plus they have gotten rid of the Clintons.  

I think the most important thing about this election is Congress.  We must try to keep from losing any more seats and try to pick up some conservatives to counter an Obama or a McCain presidency.

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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby bedbug on 06/05/08, 5:13 pm

phxcon wrote:Then you risk putting Hussein Obama into the WH. For me, its pretty simple. Under the dems, we have no chance. Under McCain, we have a slight chance. I will hold my nose and vote for that moke.


We have a slight chance of what? McCain has made it very clear that he will gladly join Dems on a number of issues: global warming, taxes, immigration, big government economic solution, mortgage bailout, close Git'mo, handcuff intelligence gathering, afford terrorists constitutional rights. He has clearly demonstrated his disdain for the 1st Amendment. He is against extracurricular politics. (The citizenry learning the truth and voicing its opinion.) He is Mr. Compromise. As we have seen time and again, compromise with a Democrat means the Dems get everything they want.

In real terms, the only difference between McCain and Obama is party affiliation.



Continuing to hold our nose and elect Marxist Republicans is not an option. If RINOs continue to win elections, they will have zero motivation to change. The RNC will see no need to change. The only way we will have a conservative GOP is to elect conservative candidates.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby ray colvin on 06/13/08, 12:09 pm

All that's being written is correct. But in the end I do not believe that McCain will sell out America to become the United Socialist States of America as Obama would.
     Ruling America, not Leading America is on Obama's and hence the Liberal's minds. They want to control Healthcare, Food prices, energy prices, what kind of vehicle you should own, you mortgage, your investments, your business, your retirement, your social security--- it will never end!
     No wonder that all the dictators and tyrannies of the world support the election of Obama. They must think alike. Why, doesn't Black Liberation Theology have it's roots in Marxism? And didn't Hussein Obama spend twenty years, that's two decades folks, listening to that message. (didn't hear a thing, my ass) Isn't even a 'casual' association with the known and admitted terrorist William Ayers revealing? It lets us see which side of the fence he stands on on the war on terror.
     Coming out of Chicago and their glorified political machine, I can assure you that Obama, the 'Great Reader',  believes what he says: That he will change America. No policy, no platform- just playing on American's fears and telling them that Government will do it all for you.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby paleocon on 06/13/08, 3:12 pm

ray colvin wrote:All that's being written is correct. But in the end I do not believe that McCain will sell out America to become the United Socialist States of America as Obama would.


I think several here would disagree with you about how John McCain looks at our constitution and our "self-evident... and certain unalienable Rights."  I fear that he considers them less "unalienable" than I do.   If McCain does not understand or respect the rights we have and respect the limitations on government described in the constitution it therefore follows that his support and defense those rights may be less vigorous than many of us would demand.  

Remember, our rights as Americans are God given and inalienable and do not derive from the government.  The constitution does not enumerate our freedoms but rather restricts the power of the federal government.  Or rather, that was the intent of the document when written.  

John McCain will yield our liberties to those who seek to empower the government.  This is a "sell out."  How intentional his "sell out" might be, and how rapidly he might "sell out," and to what degree he might "sell out" is the question on many of our minds.  But, he seems more concerned with compromise regardless of where the compromise leads us.  

I find little fault in the rest of your post.  Obama and his ilk want to limit our freedom and control our lives.  John McCain is much too eager to compromise with Obama's ilk in the name of "progress" regardless of what end his compromise progresses toward!  John McCain seems to believe he can protect the "freedom" of Americans by limiting our freedom in seemingly small matters.  This is not the case.  One does not preserve and protect freedom by limiting it for anyone.  If government can unconstitutionally limit the freedom of certain Americans it can limit all the freedom of all Americans.  

I have always said that Hillary or Barack get us to socialism in 12 years and John McCain gets us there in 16.
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby GOPER on 06/19/08, 9:42 pm

phxcon wrote:Then you risk putting Hussein Obama into the WH. For me, its pretty simple. Under the dems, we have no chance. Under McCain, we have a slight chance. I will hold my nose and vote for that moke.


Thats what i like to hear! Vote for John McCain in 2008, or you get Barack Obama, who will appoint Liberal Justices!

Lets vote tor Bipartisan Cooperation between Conservatives and Americans lets vote for John McCain, lets vote for the one who Ronald Reagan would vote for.

yes, phx con has got it all figured out, and im proud i was able to convince him. You should all follow the example of phx con, who saw the light!

Are you from a swing state, phx con?

I dont think using a word like Moke was necessary, though. You should be more respectful of the Republican Nominee.
Join your friend phxcon, who now is proudly supporting John McCain, The Republican Nominee, for president!!!

Far Righters supported Richard Nixon, Jerry Ford, and Bush Sr. and Jr., all moderates. Now you should support John McCain and Compromise!!!
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Re: Caught Between Barack And A Hard Place

Postby paleocon on 06/19/08, 10:00 pm

GOPER wrote:
yes, phx con has got it all figured out, and im proud i was able to convince him. You should all follow the example of phx con, who saw the light!



Please explain how you were able to convince phxcon of a statement he made several weeks before you ever joined this forum and began posting?  Again, you can have your own opinion but facts are facts.  This is laughable!
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