Are the Libs a Unified and Monolithic Force

Are the Libs a Unified and Monolithic Force

Postby paleocon on 04/06/08, 10:49 pm

One of the things this year has shown is that the Libs are experiencing some significant divisions.  The party is split into two factions in the presidential campaign.  The two sides evidently loathe each other.  And that is creating some interesting currents.  Ironically, they are probably more similar philosophically than the GOP but they all seem to hate each other.  

Reid in the Senate has been quiet on the issue of endorsing a candidate.  Some people suspect endorsing a candidate could tear apart the dems in the Senate and cripple any possiblity of Reid leading the Senate.  But, ironically, he hasn't been able to lead the Senate effectively since he became majority leader.  Thankfully, Reid has accomplished virtually nothing in the last 2 years.  

Pelosi has been even less effective in the House.  She seems to be leaning toward Obama because she clearly detests Clinton.  I suspect that if Hillary "Rocky" Clinton were to become the next president the conflict between Pelosi and Clinton would be worse than that between Reagan and Tip O'Niell.  That could easily lead to nothing coming out of the House for the next 4 years.  

It is possible that the democrats could win or lose the presidency.  A McCain victory is not a given even if they dems continue to tear themselves apart.  And the nation seems to be disgusted with both the GOP and democrats in Congress so it is possible that even if the GOP retains the White House they could face a larger democrat majority in Congress.  I suspect that a McCain victory will have short coattails.  

Frankly, I fear a McCain alliance with a democrat Congress more than a HRC alliance with a democrat Congress.  I suspect Clinton and Pelosi will spend more time fighting for control of a legislative agenda than working together.  Ironically, McCain may be more willing to work with Reid and Pelosi and that scares me because their ideas are dangerous.  Obama seems so inept that I doubt he has a coherent vision for governing.  His lack of close relationships in the Senate won't do him much good there.  And I suspect he and Pelosi would have a similar power struggle as with HRC but it might be less personal.  But, still Obama and Pelosi would fight for "leadership."
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Re: Are the Libs a Unified and Monolithic Force

Postby SoldiersMum on 04/07/08, 1:07 am

Your post is good except one thing.  There is no way Pelosi is going to remain Speaker of the House in the 111th Congress if HRC is elected Prez.  She may not even be able to keep it with Obama as Prez although she has come out vocally in support of the leader being the nominee versus the Superdelegates selecting HRC.  

I just do not see the powers in the Democrat Party allowing Nancy Pelosi to continue to be the Speaker of the House when she has been one of the worst in history and Congress' approval rating is in the toilet because of her decisions.  She has made enemies and they will see to it she is nothing but the Congresswoman from CA.  

Of course, if McCain wins she's done and I hope she doesn't let the door hit her on the fanny on her way out.  That might recycle her botox.  Did you read the report on Drudge about Botox migrating to the brain?  Maybe that's her problem.  Yes, her brain has been botoxed.  That would be her defense if anyone with any cajones tried her using the LOGAN Act for going to Syria and meeting with Bashur or going to visit the Dahli Llama in India.  This is your brain..this is your brain on Botox.  I can see the brain scans now.

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